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    #230290

    Greg
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    Smick looking gadgets eh, no EFI again

    Thanks for posting Menace

    TB

    #230298

    Dean
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    They Look like a good thing B) Not a fan of the Sachs suspension tho would have been better with Marzocchi/KYB/Ohlins/Showa CC forks and Ohlins rear Boinger

    ollie

    #230300

    pete
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    Weird :blink: I just past a beta on my way up here, it was on a trailer, maybe a 2011 or 2012 at a guess.
    Never seen or heard of one and now I’ve seen and heard of them twice in one day.

    PTW

    #230291

    If you were into trials bikes you would have heard of Beta PTW. The more 2 banger the better now if only the Japs would pull their heads out of the sand.

    #230301

    Dean
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    Scotty wrote:
    If you were into trials bikes you would have heard of Beta PTW. The more 2 banger the better now if only the Japs would pull their heads out of the sand.

    +1 Scotty ;)

    BTW I rode a 99 RMX for about 50 kays up in the Watagans last weekend B) still love the old Suzuki 2 strokes. How good are the seats on em like an arm chair compared to the Brick on the Gasser :laugh:

    Ollie

    #230302

    Greg
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    Scotty wrote:
    If you were into trials bikes you would have heard of Beta PTW. The more 2 banger the better now if only the Japs would pull their heads out of the sand.

    Maybe it isn’t the japs with their head in sand :dry: Just saying :whistle: I believe that if there was a big enough demand or enough of a market the japs would hump a camel for a quid or market share. Think about it they need only dust of the blue prints to a 85 model YZ or RM etc technology hasn’t changed and bang your in the game. Market share extra easy.

    Oh yeah don’t forget the conspiracy theory :P by the way if Yamaha marketed the YZ 400 which changed the landscape why does Honda get the blame :dry:

    Oh the debate :laugh:

    TB

    #230307

    alan
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    :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: stir the pot TB great bate hope they bite for you :kiss:

    #230292

    Unfortunately it appears for the Japs its all about the bottoms line. They only spend to develop a small model range to maximise profits for those models. If they were to produce 2T off road models no doubt they would just be pulling market share from their 4T range.

    Have a look at the Jap range of off roaders compared to the Euros. No contest the Euros make everything from 125cc 2T up to 500+cc 4T whilst the Japs hang their hat on 450cc 4T and a couple 250’s. Yes it may corporate sense and be more profitable but f#*k they have become boring.

    Love or hate the Euros and 2T at least they show passion and excitement.

    PS it not taking bait Rocket its called adults having an intelligent debate, try it sometime. :P

    #230309

    Greg
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    white rocket wrote:
    :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: stir the pot TB great bate hope they bite for you :kiss:

    It’s not just pot stirring Rocket it’s also maybe just maybe there is more to it then their theory. (doesn’t have to be mine)
    I dont care two stroke, four stroke, dirt, motard, single, twin, beach, road, as long as you are riding :)

    TB

    #230311

    Greg
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    Scotty wrote:
    Unfortunately it appears for the Japs its all about the bottoms line. They only spend to develop a small model range to maximise profits for those models. If they were to produce 2T off road models no doubt they would just be pulling market share from their 4T range.

    Mate if they did two strokes they would still keep them in the brand rather than lose them to the euro’s so their market share would increase so the above isn’t right

    Have a look at the Jap range of off roaders compared to the Euros. No contest the Euros make everything from 125cc 2T up to 500+cc 4T whilst the Japs hang their hat on 450cc 4T and a couple 250’s. Yes it may corporate sense and be more profitable but f#*k they have become boring.

    Again read the above

    Love or hate the Euros and 2T at least they show passion and excitement.

    What a 450, 530 etc when ridden doesn’t generate passion, that’s a real closed mind statement. What was the last performance 450 etc four stroke did you really screwed on and hung on? And the your ADV husky doesn’t count as a performance four stroke sorry

    TB

    #230312

    alan
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    PS it not taking bait Rocket its called adults having an intelligent debate, try it sometime. :P[/quote] this two stroke vs 4stroke thing has been going on as long as i have been riding ie before i was an adult(am old to) only thing i have to add is its good to still have a choice and like both and 2 strokes suck on long steap hills :whistle:

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    Trailboss wrote:
    And the your ADV husky doesn’t count as a performance four stroke sorry[/color]

    TB[/quote]

    Ah, not sure I said anything about my Husky and yes I agree its a big old school trail bike.

    #230316

    alan
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    rode a 012 ktm450 a while back TB loved it bloody fast as and easy to ride want one handled great reckon i could ride a 4stroke faster for sure than a 2stroke but the two stroke is still fun and own it so it will do have herd this all before

    #230317

    Greg
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    Scotty wrote:
    Trailboss wrote:
    And the your ADV husky doesn’t count as a performance four stroke sorry[/color]

    TB

    Ah, not sure I said anything about my Husky and yes I agree its a big old school trail bike.[/quote]

    Ummm never said you did, did I? Wow Just didn’t want that to pop up clouding the debate ;)
    Did you get anything else out of my reply?

    Oh yeah Rocket it’s not personal

    TB

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