Clamp down on UnRegoed bikes

micknmeld wrote:

That is the bit that is blatant Bull, in forests NSW the biggest spreader of weeds is the logging and cheap labour contract roading crews, Davids (actually his superiors) are just on the high horse again, as several of his Peers and masters are anti-everything and clutch at straws for a bit of publicity

I’ll take anything they say seriously when they actually go into the forests they porport to look after and walk around without getting lost.

I can show anyone a dozen forests up here that have non-endemic species introduced by the detrius still laying about the cavities and engine compartments of harvestors and Skidders brought in from far flung areas, to do the work on the cheap, because SFNSW is not about anything but lowest common denominator business, how do I know, I worked for them and then along side them for more years than I care to remember.

How about David (actually the people pulling his strings) congratulating the northern Bike riders who clean up after the doof-parties and report dangerous Storm damage to your field staff… oh wait on that’s right you don’t have any feild staff leaft, only Bureaucrats and ladder-climbers, all your experienced and knowledgeable staff have been kicked out or pensioned off at early ages.

Don’t get me wrong I’m not defending Illegal activities, but SFNSW and NPWS are the biggest crowd of hypocrital back-biting truth bending manipulators, I ever worked for, some good people in the system, but overall do more damage than good under a system that was exploited and fed to the media as “good for the environment and the regions”.

Dont worry about that bit Bruce we know their political bullshit behind it is just that. Get the pit bikes get the unregistered MX bikes and get the tossers riding unrego’ed. Level the playing field so when one of those pecker heads runs into me in the forest green slip insurance and the likes helps me :angry: :angry: This is one of my pet hates and if we did the right thing it would give us a leg to stand on other fronts as far as defending our sport goes because we are losing the argument and I will see in my ride time things change for the worse mark my words :angry:

TB

Trailboss wrote:

On this you’re right, because we are an easy, non organised group of recreational forest users, who are oft easily portrayed as “Hoons”.

It’s the old.. “Oh look over there and see what they’re doing, aren’t they naughty, now look at what a good job I’m doing by stopping them” to draw attention away from the fact they are mismanaging and destroying the very ideals they were entrusted to protect.

We need more organisation and a political voice, like the greenies have, cause reality is there’s more of us actively using the bush than there are of them.

micknmeld wrote:

But Michael, you & I both know from their warm and fuzzy press releases, that they only ever think of the greater good for forest use, they never ever would think of Bowing to loud minority groups, or be pressured by the Gov’t of the day to make more money.

I put it to you that the largest regular group of forest users up here would be Off-road motorcyclists, and that could be double edged sword, but if we are the predominant legit usergroup, by golly shouldn’t our voices be heard.

Stop your whinging Mick the threads about unregoed bikes ya bonehead :laugh: :laugh: The rest is big business its always been like that and always will be

micknmeld wrote:

heres my take

Unregoed bikes in the bush is something I cant handle, all it is doing is giving those who do the right thing a bad name, which in turn is destroying our access to keep doing the sport we all love.

Here is my dilemma
I sometimes take my young fella’s out into the bush – I take them along way from anywhere and ride with them on powerlines etc, trying to gain them experience and teach them, they are on un-regoed bikes, but the riding is controlled and we are using designated tracks – in essence this makes me(or my kids) one of the badies.
So I guess I’m a hypocrite

hatto

Scooty there is some loopholes in that for the experienced forest user, not always the case, but can be:

If a track has been designated as an access track at ANY point of time in a crown forest, we legally cannot be pursued through the courts unless it has signage specifically denoting it’s closure.
Ie: once a road, always a road no matter how overgrown it’s become.

I Agree that the unrego bit is just the “cover story”, they don’t care weather a bike is rego’d or not, they just want them gone altogether.

Otherwise they would do this in the well-known areas, where pitbikes wander free….

I’m not as uptight about rego as many others closer to the big smokes, probably about 1/2 the blokes I ride with are on modified MXers, as were we ride there is almost absolute isolation and farmer joes run their cattle in there unalwfully to try, but if it was nearer civilisation I could see the issues with every Joe dik and his mate riding around on noisy unsuitable bikes making a target out of all of us.

It’s a far different world up here to even your area Mick.
Coppers here will stop in the biush and ask the boys if they’ve seen any suspicious activites, crops or stolen cars, and ignore the lack of Plates or lights most of the time.
We have a bigger issue with illegal Doof parties being held in the forests every second weekend, destroying everything in sight and a few deaths here and there.