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  • #100466

    Wayne
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    Hi guys,
    My 09yz 450 feels like its jumping in fifth gear when under power. I have been getting a lot of false neutrals progressively getting worse. Hard to explain exactly what is happening but it feels as if the chain is jumping the front sprocket! Its definately not!
    Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.
    Cheers madg.

    #208461

    Chris
    Member

    Hey Madge, I got a suggestion sell it and buy a gas gas 300,

    Hey Guys surely theres some yamaha guru’s here that can help out????

    Cheers
    Chris.

    #208462

    Adam Rodgers
    Member

    Sounds like the gear dogs have worn and under pressure the get forced out, ie the selector fork can’t hold the gear in (not that it’s meant to hold it in, its only meant to select the gear and the dogs lock in).

    Saw a similar thing on a WR450. It had sent the selector fork blue.

    The fix is to strip it down and replace the worn parts.

    When its apart you’ll see tha fault its usually obvious.

    Sam’s third gear on his KTM250 had a different problem. It felt like neutral, no jumping at all. The gear dogs litterally blew off and were sitting in the bottom of the box.

    I may still have the WR gears here I’ll have a look and post a photo.

    Below is Sam’s problem :(

    [attachment=2850]KTM250Gear1.jpg[/attachment]

    [attachment=2851]KTM250Gear2.jpg[/attachment]

    Adam.

    #208463

    Adam Rodgers
    Member

    Found a pair of the 450’s gears. The previous owner had the problem, pulled the box apart, tried to grind the dogs square (without success), put it back together and flogged it off on Ebay to a mate of Sam’s :whistle:

    It cost him a couple of hundred dollars in parts and two cases of beer but he got it back together and going.

    Now if Sam’s mate can do it anyone can :P

    All you need to do is read the instructions :dry: Something he had trouble with :laugh:

    [attachment=2852]WR450Gear.jpg[/attachment]

    Adam.

    #208969

    Glenn
    Member

    Hey Madge, my wr450 had this problem and the fix is to replace 5th gear pinion (5TJ-17151-00-00) about $20 and 3rd gear pinion (5TJ-17131-00-00) about $50 you must replace both. I purchased these from the states after checking prices from my local Yamaha dealer. Shift fork 2 and shift fork 3 may or may not be bent I replaced mine anyway, as they were only about $30 each from the US. Whilst I had my gearbox stripped I also replaced all oil seals and bearings but I could of just replaced the 5th and 3rd gear pinions.

    Happy to help with any further info if you need it.

    Cheers Glenn

    #208970

    Greg
    Member
    adam wrote:
    Sounds like the gear dogs have worn and under pressure the get forced out, ie the selector fork can’t hold the gear in (not that it’s meant to hold it in, its only meant to select the gear and the dogs lock in).

    Saw a similar thing on a WR450. It had sent the selector fork blue.

    The fix is to strip it down and replace the worn parts.

    When its apart you’ll see tha fault its usually obvious.

    Sam’s third gear on his KTM250 had a different problem. It felt like neutral, no jumping at all. The gear dogs litterally blew off and were sitting in the bottom of the box.

    I may still have the WR gears here I’ll have a look and post a photo.

    Below is Sam’s problem :(

    [attachment=2850]KTM250Gear1.jpg[/attachment]

    [attachment=2851]KTM250Gear2.jpg[/attachment]

    Adam.

    Is thats Sams new 250 :ohmy:

    TB

    #208987

    Adam Rodgers
    Member
    Trailboss wrote:
    adam wrote:
    Sounds like the gear dogs have worn and under pressure the get forced out, ie the selector fork can’t hold the gear in (not that it’s meant to hold it in, its only meant to select the gear and the dogs lock in).

    Saw a similar thing on a WR450. It had sent the selector fork blue.

    The fix is to strip it down and replace the worn parts.

    When its apart you’ll see tha fault its usually obvious.

    Sam’s third gear on his KTM250 had a different problem. It felt like neutral, no jumping at all. The gear dogs litterally blew off and were sitting in the bottom of the box.

    I may still have the WR gears here I’ll have a look and post a photo.

    Below is Sam’s problem :(

    [attachment=2850]KTM250Gear1.jpg[/attachment]

    [attachment=2851]KTM250Gear2.jpg[/attachment]

    Adam.

    Is thats Sams new 250 :ohmy:

    TB

    Unfortunately yes :(

    Happened on the second or third lap at last weekends AORC sweep.

    He spent the rest of the weekend on Moose’s 250 with no problems.

    There was no sign of any form of wear on any of the dogs, one dog that broke off had a slight mark on the edge probably where it hit the selector fork.

    Interestingly one of the split cage roller bearings had a roller missing :unsure:

    Looks like it was missing from its initial assembly. I doubt it had anything to do with the gear failure.

    Ordered the new parts and doing a new piston as well ;)

    I’m quiet with work so it has given me something to do other than keeping the boss happy with jobs around the house :whistle:

    Adam.

    #208975

    Wayne
    Member

    Thanks fella’s,
    Think i might take Chris’s advice a get a gasser.

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