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AnonymousThe software will soon be available to the masses when FI becomes mainstream and there will be other programs that allow you access too. Evryone’s got a laptop these days, if you don’t….tough luck :laugh:
Admit it, once sorted the potential for changing settings on the fly is very easy, not that it’s required for all bar the best riders, although I suspect alot will like to play……I would
Moto wrote:
Quote:The software will soon be available to the masses when FI becomes mainstream and there will be other programs that allow you access too. Evryone’s got a laptop these days, if you don’t….tough luck :laugh:Admit it, once sorted the potential for changing settings on the fly is very easy, not that it’s required for all bar the best riders, although I suspect alot will like to play……I would
You are a peanut! The benefits of EFI are more than stopping to hook up a laptop and change your state of tune :laugh:
I cant type cause I am laughing and shaking my head :laugh:
To pre answer your next post here Moto, “your right, I didnt consider that, you are the man blah blah blah”
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Moto wrote:
Quote:Boony – The 450 is 113.9Kg without fuel according to the technical data on the KTM websitethats 6 kilos lighter than the dry weight of the DRZ,however the coin is what shys me away $14000.00 thats 5k more than the DRZ.
You can have a go on my bike at Louee if you want I would try and blag a go on Menace’s 300 as well as they are a great bike, a true all rounder
AnonymousTrailboss wrote:
Quote:You are a peanut! The benefits of EFI are more than stopping to hook up a laptop and change your state of tune :laugh:I know, but I was highlighting that one. The point wasn’t to explain every benefit of FI, it was to provide a alternative opinion to part XY’s post.
You are the one, as usual, who is bending it all out of shape. I’ll pre-empt your posts and say it’s the future so get over it
Boony wrote:
Quote:Moto wrote:Quote:Boony – The 450 is 113.9Kg without fuel according to the technical data on the KTM websitethats 6 kilos lighter than the dry weight of the DRZ,however the coin is what shys me away $14000.00 thats 5k more than the DRZ.
You can have a go on my bike at Louee if you want I would try and blag a go on Menace’s 300 as well as they are a great bike, a true all rounder :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
i’ll have a go at making your DRZ 6kg lighter for 2.5k
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you could try helium in the tyres:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :silly: :silly: :silly: :woohoo:
AnonymousBoony wrote:
Quote:Moto wrote:Quote:Boony – The 450 is 113.9Kg without fuel according to the technical data on the KTM websitethats 6 kilos lighter than the dry weight of the DRZ,however the coin is what shys me away $14000.00 thats 5k more than the DRZ.
You can have a go on my bike at Louee if you want I would try and blag a go on Menace’s 300 as well as they are a great bike, a true all rounder I think your DRZ is more like 140Kg’s than 120Kg’s. Maybe you have a special one :laugh:
AnonymousI just had a look and according to Suzuki a DRZ400E wieghs in at a poultry 138Kg
See here for further info.
So that’s only 24Kg difference or an extra 21% of the Kato’s mass again. Make the $5K seem any better?
AnonymousI’ve ridden a DRZ backwards around the Maculata track and it wasn’t fun. Especially when the battery died!
The difference between a 450 and 250 can be night and day in single trail and that may be as little as 10 Kg’s difference.
XY – It’s real baby
In fairness I wouldn’t say that when you’re fresh it feels THAT heavy but as Blue says, after a some hard single track you’d be ready to throw it in the bush and set it on fire :laugh:WOW that DR is heavy, but they sort of feel it.
My XR has a claimed factory weight of 125.6kgs USA spec
Mine at work on the digital freight scales weighed 122.7kgs no fuel but all other liquidsI can say mine feels lighter when riding it, Gilli said the same when he rode it in the singles on the western side of the watos, but it feels all the 133 odd kgs (with fuel) when you are pushing its arse out of bogs for sure
Another thing I can do better wheelies when I have the medium 17 litre fuel tank on for some reason and I dont notice the weight difference when that tank is empty or full, its just the sloshing of fuel sometimes when half full and hard braking on stutter style bumps
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Scotty wrote:
Quote:I think you’ll find 138kg is the wet weight ready to ride with 10L of fuel. Yes still heavy but I still remember on the Hill End ride after 2 days off riding when we hit some technical tracks it was the guys on the light weight 250 S/T weapons who had a cry and the heavy DRZ/XR riders lapped it up. Go figure. maybe you guys just arn’t man enough and need to pump the f#*k up.Yeah Scotty go
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wouldnt happen in vic scotty;)
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