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  • September 29, 2010 at 2:19 am #98993

    Peter
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    Hey Guys,

    I had a boil over on the we doing tight ST and lots of stopsstarts. I mean ride 20m stop for 30sec, ride 10m, idle for 1 min, ride 40m, stop for 2 mins … repeated over and over.

    No brainer the bike would get real hot with no decent air flow over the radiator. Ive seen discusions on the use of Engine ICE.

    Anyone here use it ? Where do you get it ?

    Am also looking into a radiator fan ( from OS, Im not paying $350aus for a glorified 12cm computer fan :angry: ).

    Cheers

    September 29, 2010 at 2:26 am #188016

    Jeffrey Smith
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    Some people actually use computer fans I have heard, they should be cheap enough. I have been thinking fitting one to my Husaberg as it overheats very quickly in the tight stuff. I always turn it off whenever there is a holdup.

    September 29, 2010 at 2:34 am #188031

    Mick D
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    I am also having some boil over issues with my XR650 in tight singles. I rang Anderson’s radiators in Port Macquarie this morning and in the discussion he mentioned that his sons KTM250 is having some heat problems. KTM make some after market radiator caps 1.4 bar and 1.8 bar.(Standard is 1.1 bar) He said that the higher pressure cap does help. He is also trying some sort of additive to his radiator that is some sort of metal wetting agent that improved the cooling efficiency of the coolant.

    AS for the Engine Ice, he said he had never used it but had heard of it. So I can’t help there.

    September 29, 2010 at 2:54 am #188017

    Peter
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    Cheers Mick,

    Ive read on other forums that some ppl have used it with good results.
    My 450 has the 1.8 bar cap.

    I was knocked back by a KTM parts site in the US to buy the fan kit ( $350aus here, or $150aus from the US ) They said buy it from your local dealer. But I found a Husaberg dealer in the US and have placed the order with them as I believe the fan kit is identical with the FE450.

    September 29, 2010 at 3:04 am #188032

    Greg
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    The radiator coolant “Ice” will help but wont stop it, a higher pressure cap will help but wont stop it (and remember the higher pressure will put a lot more pressure on hoses and clamps)The metal wetting agent that Mick mentioned will improve the cooling efficiency of the cooling system but also wont fix it (We trialed it here at work in stationary gensets and there wasnt enough benefit for the cost)
    A thermo fan would in all but the most extreme cases prevent it boiling and be the best fix IMO. Check the cost from Mal at Sutto’s, tell him you are a Old Bull.

    TB

    September 29, 2010 at 3:37 am #188018

    Craig Hatton
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    While your talking to Mal at sutto’s ask him about the coolant in the metal can he sells, I have been using it and have had no real issues, it’s boiling point is up over 200 deg, mal was the one who put me onto it. You don’t add water just this stuff and 1 tin is perfect amount for my 06 450exc

    Hatto

    September 29, 2010 at 3:52 am #188033

    Greg
    Member

    Hatto wrote:

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    While your talking to Mal at sutto’s ask him about the coolant in the metal can he sells, I have been using it and have had no real issues, it’s boiling point is up over 200 deg, mal was the one who put me onto it. You don’t add water just this stuff and 1 tin is perfect amount for my 06 450exc

    Hatto

    Thats the “ICE” coolant ;)

    September 29, 2010 at 4:06 am #188035

    Craig Hatton
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    Trailboss wrote:

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    Hatto wrote:

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    While your talking to Mal at sutto’s ask him about the coolant in the metal can he sells, I have been using it and have had no real issues, it’s boiling point is up over 200 deg, mal was the one who put me onto it. You don’t add water just this stuff and 1 tin is perfect amount for my 06 450exc

    Hatto

    Thats the “ICE” coolant ;)

    Oh Ok, I don’t look, just take Mal on his word and give him the coin.

    In That case, Riggs, I have used ICE and have not had any issues of late – but summer is coming and that will change things.

    Hatto

    September 29, 2010 at 4:07 am #188019

    Peter
    Member

    The fan kit is on its way, I’ll install and report back.

    Cheers

    September 29, 2010 at 4:50 am #188036

    Mick D
    Member

    How much is in the tin of ICE??? Also anyone know how much it costs?

    September 29, 2010 at 5:04 am #188037

    Greg
    Member

    micknmeld wrote:

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    How much is in the tin of ICE??? Also anyone know how much it costs?

    2 litres, Also anyone know how much it costs :laugh:

    Ring Sutto’s and ask Mal ;)

    Its not cheap and if you did as I told you 12 months ago with your bike you wouldnt have boiled it once :blink: and especially if you dont leave it idling for extended periods when its hot :dry:

    TB

    September 29, 2010 at 5:18 am #188034

    Dean
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    Hatto wrote:

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    While your talking to Mal at sutto’s ask him about the coolant in the metal can he sells, I have been using it and have had no real issues, it’s boiling point is up over 200 deg, mal was the one who put me onto it. You don’t add water just this stuff and 1 tin is perfect amount for my 06 450exc

    Hatto

    This is the stuff you probably got Hatto B) Its not Engine Ice its a fully synthetic liquid.

    http://motorcyclecoolant.com.au/

    Cost me $35 for a litre

    Its good stuff B)

    September 29, 2010 at 5:35 am #188043

    Mick D
    Member

    Ollie wrote:

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    Hatto wrote:

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    While your talking to Mal at sutto’s ask him about the coolant in the metal can he sells, I have been using it and have had no real issues, it’s boiling point is up over 200 deg, mal was the one who put me onto it. You don’t add water just this stuff and 1 tin is perfect amount for my 06 450exc

    Hatto

    This is the stuff you probably got Hatto B) Its not Engine Ice its a fully synthetic liquid.

    http://motorcyclecoolant.com.au/

    Cost me $35 for a litre

    Its good stuff B)

    At $35 a litre it would want to be good. That is dearer than Wild Turkey!! :laugh:

    September 29, 2010 at 5:40 am #188044

    Craig Hatton
    Member

    Ollie wrote:

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    Hatto wrote:

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    While your talking to Mal at sutto’s ask him about the coolant in the metal can he sells, I have been using it and have had no real issues, it’s boiling point is up over 200 deg, mal was the one who put me onto it. You don’t add water just this stuff and 1 tin is perfect amount for my 06 450exc

    Hatto

    This is the stuff you probably got Hatto B) Its not Engine Ice its a fully synthetic liquid.

    http://motorcyclecoolant.com.au/

    Cost me $35 for a litre

    Its good stuff B)

    Thats the stuff ollie

    hatto

    September 29, 2010 at 5:43 am #188046

    Craig Hatton
    Member

    micknmeld wrote:

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    Ollie wrote:

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    Hatto wrote:

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    While your talking to Mal at sutto’s ask him about the coolant in the metal can he sells, I have been using it and have had no real issues, it’s boiling point is up over 200 deg, mal was the one who put me onto it. You don’t add water just this stuff and 1 tin is perfect amount for my 06 450exc

    Hatto

    This is the stuff you probably got Hatto B) Its not Engine Ice its a fully synthetic liquid.

    http://motorcyclecoolant.com.au/

    Cost me $35 for a litre

    Its good stuff B)

    At $35 a litre it would want to be good. That is dearer than Wild Turkey!! :laugh:

    Turkey slaps are bad for your health Mick, get off em

    $35 or cooked engine, I choose $35

    Hatto

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