Clamp down on UnRegoed bikes

[scott bockingMember]

Scotty wrote:

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Trailboss wrote:

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Stop your whinging Mick the threads about unregoed bikes ya bonehead :laugh: :laugh: The rest is big business its always been like that and always will be

TB it’s not just about unrego bikes, but bikes doing what they consider the wrong thing. That would include riding the single tracks we like so much. These arn’t considered “legal trails” and as such whether your registered or not they want you out of the forest. Life will get boring real quick if we have to stick to the fire roads.

Singletracks are illegal in National parks but are legal in State Forests.

STM

[Mick DMember]

A lot of the single trails we ride are in fact disused and overgrown firetrails and logging snig tracks. I wonder at what stage of regrowth do they no longer consider them to be “legal trails”. Many of these trails would have long gone back to lantana forest if there weren’t trails continually being kept open.

[Mick DMember]

singletrackmind wrote:

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Singletracks are illegal in National parks but are legal in State Forests.

STM

where did you get that info STM???

[Bruce CurtisMember]

micknmeld wrote:

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A lot of the single trails we ride are in fact disused and overgrown firetrails and logging snig tracks. I wonder at what stage of regrowth do they no longer consider them to be “legal trails”. Many of these trails would have long gone back to lantana forest if there weren’t trails continually being kept open.

See my post Mick, it was argued at a meeting I was at several years ago, it has been designated an access track, and is then designated such until officialy rescinded.

[Bruce CurtisMember]

singletrackmind wrote:

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Singletracks are illegal in National parks but are legal in State Forests.

STM

Is Slaters road still there STM?

That cost Slaters alot of money, cause they pushed it in with no authority, but was quickly designated an access road once there.

[Scott SouthwellMember]

We have just had an issue down here with mountain bike trails that have existed for over 20 years. The local council has since decided these trails are now illegal and are expecting local police to take action against anyone who rides them. Local MTB clubs put forward a plan to make the trails sustainable with no success.

If they want you off the land they will make it happen, with or without rego. If they can stop pushies riding the bush what hope do moto’s have.

[scott bockingMember]

Mr Blue wrote:

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singletrackmind wrote:

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Singletracks are illegal in National parks but are legal in State Forests.

STM

Is Slaters road still there STM?

That cost Slaters alot of money, cause they pushed it in with no authority, but was quickly designated an access road once there.

Yeah Blue

Slaters is still there.

STM

[scott bockingMember]

micknmeld wrote:

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singletrackmind wrote:

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Singletracks are illegal in National parks but are legal in State Forests.

STM

where did you get that info STM???

That was my understanding from back in the MTB days.
I may stand corrected.

STM

[Bruce CurtisMember]

Scotty wrote:

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We have just had an issue down here with mountain bike trails that have existed for over 20 years. The local council has since decided these trails are now illegal and are expecting local police to take action against anyone who rides them. Local MTB clubs put forward a plan to make the trails sustainable with no success.

If they want you off the land they will make it happen, with or without rego. If they can stop pushies riding the bush what hope do moto’s have.

The council has bushland it is in control of Scotty?

Crikey that’s not the councils core business, it’s DEPT of lands or NPWS or whoever. They must have wrested control of it from another authority, we have road reserves and that is it, don’t want any more (actually maybe we do, there’s around 20-30 bike riders work on council including the Deputy Mayor and the GM… Mmmm maybe if we did……. )

[scott bockingMember]

Here is a classic example of a fire road that was cut back in only 6 months ago and has started to grow back over already.

Next time they need to use it they can thank me for keeping the lantana at bay.

http://www.youtube.com/user/singletrack71#p/a/u/0/1agwaSy91Lc

STM

[Bruce CurtisMember]

Scotty wrote:

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We have just had an issue down here with mountain bike trails that have existed for over 20 years. The local council has since decided these trails are now illegal and are expecting local police to take action against anyone who rides them. Local MTB clubs put forward a plan to make the trails sustainable with no success.

If they want you off the land they will make it happen, with or without rego. If they can stop pushies riding the bush what hope do moto’s have.

They’d have to designate the tracks as such at a formal full council meeting with a tabled vote on it wouldn’t they Scotty to be enforceable, much the same as at a road worksite, the TCP must be 100% adhered to with signage and whatnot or the courts will throw the fines out.

[Scott SouthwellMember]

These are the signs that now meet mountain bikers at trails on council land that have existed for over 20 years. These trails run through 2 local council areas. Only 1 of them has made it an issue but this has made the trails all but useless.

[alanMember]

think if it comes to there being no single track riding alowed and only alowed on fire trails we may as well sell our bikes and get harlys become a bikey gang.think most of us are over racing thats the only other option

[alanMember]

Mr Blue wrote:

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Scotty wrote:

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We have just had an issue down here with mountain bike trails that have existed for over 20 years. The local council has since decided these trails are now illegal and are expecting local police to take action against anyone who rides them. Local MTB clubs put forward a plan to make the trails sustainable with no success.

If they want you off the land they will make it happen, with or without rego. If they can stop pushies riding the bush what hope do moto’s have.

They’d have to designate the tracks as such at a formal full council meeting with a tabled vote on it wouldn’t they Scotty to be enforceable, much the same as at a road worksite, the TCP must be 100% adhered to with signage and whatnot or the courts will throw the fines out.

so does this mean remove the sighns wheres dan he mite want to make something with one

[Nick JacksonMember]

I was involved in a 5 year court battle over crown roads and access tracks. My understanding after it was resolved is that crown roads as shown on topographic maps etc. Can be used by the public providing they are not contained within private land that has an enclosure permit and that no vegitation is removed to create these tracks . In the dept. Of lands words to me the crown road can be used but go round the trees not over them. National parks in our area approached me to show them where their own tracks were and are thankful that trail riders use them and can provide them information on their overgrown fire trails.
This is obviously a sensible approach by NP as I could tell them where in a fire situation it would be dangerous , even life threatening to their firefighters with their outdated info.
I hope they maintain the attitude that we are doing more good than harm using these trails.

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