Coffs Coast 2012 Adventure Ride

[David MasonMember]

Fair point Mick about a half ride.
It is doable as long as we do not muck around too much.
Chris has said that he may not ride but meet us halfway with fuel, lunch and an esky if we all decide on the longer run.
I will get GPS route organised as that will mean less stopping and we can regroup less often.
Any one with a GPS send me a PM with youir E-mail address and I will send the GPS route to you.
I was going to use cornerman system but if we have enough people with GPS I will probably get someone to lead and I will sweep that way if anyone is not sure thay can just stop and wait for me. Does that sound right?
Just remember I have never been on an organised ride before let alone organised one.

I am hoping by the time we leave my post count will be high enough for me to be able to do it.

[GregMember]

Maso wrote:

Fair point Mick about a half ride.
It is doable as long as we do not muck around too much.
Chris has said that he may not ride but meet us halfway with fuel, lunch and an esky if we all decide on the longer run.
I will get GPS route organised as that will mean less stopping and we can regroup less often.
Any one with a GPS send me a PM with youir E-mail address and I will send the GPS route to you.
I was going to use cornerman system but if we have enough people with GPS I will probably get someone to lead and I will sweep that way if anyone is not sure thay can just stop and wait for me. Does that sound right?
Just remember I have never been on an organised ride before let alone organised one.

I am hoping by the time we leave my post count will be high enough for me to be able to do it.

Great work Maso real good stuff.My only suggestion is that with the GPS routes and people using them etc going ahead will only work if EVERYONE has a GPS otherwise they will spread out and we have found sometimes people rush to stay with those that have a GPS and the same people are left at the back all day. If not you are better running cornerman (you only have a small number so it will move fast anyway) If some have GPS and some dont you will spread way out from the rides I have run and people with will spend ages waiting at the regroups. As its only a day ride and small group using the cornerman will look after everyone and keep the small group within helping distance off one another. Those that have a GPS will have the route when its over anyway

Just my thoughts from what I have done, its your ride so feel free to tell me to butt out :laugh:

You dont need a thread count to run a ride or route just a want to do something for others

Again great work

Thanks

TB

[David MasonMember]

Thanks TB all advice is greatfully accepted.
I will take on board your advice and see what happens.
I am assuming a few experienced folk on the ride will be able to help me along the way as well.
Keep the suggestions coming I am all ears.

[peteMember]

I can’t be 100% certain for this ride as it will depend on work, but I’m easy as which route you decide.
I think TB is right about the corner man, if it will only be a small group the corner man system will be an easy solution and will make it easy to regroup everyone if something was to change mid ride.
I’m happy to help out if you need mate, but by the sound of it you have a cracker of a day planned our.
And remember mate, this not an organised ride, you are just going for a ride and we might tag along :whistle: :laugh:

PTW

[David MasonMember]

Thanks Pete

Note to self ” I am not organising a ride . Why are these people following me?”

Looks like Cornerman is the way to go. Like I say I have never riden in an organised ride (not that this is an organised ride) and so never used the cornerman system.

Hope you can make it Pete.

[Amy HarburgMember]

Hi Maso,

I’m really looking forward to tagging along with you to have a look around the coffs coast area.

I’m fine for either option, but being the hard core Latte sipping adventurer I am, I have a slight preference for the shorter option :blush: . No worries to do the longer option though, it will just give us more stories at the end of the day. :whistle:
The other way we can look at this is to also wait and see what the weather has in store for us.

I should have no problem with fuel, but will bring a fuel bladder just in case.

I’m not sure if I will have a GPS for this ride. It depend if Garmin send me a new on in time.

OOOOOO I cant wait.

Eagle, really sorry to hear you can come along boo

Flying Fish

[Chris LaanMember]

Hi all, I am giving Maso a hand with this and will probably be sweep for the trip. He has passed on the trail riders “corner man” rules and I would like to suggest this as an alternative corner man basics for ADV riding, a little different due to the lower number of possible turns and clearer, more defined roads;

You have a lead rider and a sweep who both know the way. You ride between them all day.

The general rule is to follow the road in front of you making no turns off the road you are on.

When the lead rider comes to a turn or intersection where it is not perfectly clear which option to take he will stop (or slow if rider behind is close enough) and ensure the rider following sees which direction to turn. Once he is sure the rider behind has seen which direction he has gone he will ride off to the next corner. You stop where the lead rider stopped and wait for the rider following, the same way the lead rider did for you.

IMPORTANT: DO NOT RIDE OFF UNTIL YOU ARE SURE THE FOLLOWING RIDER HAS SEEN WHICH DIRECTION YOU ARE GOING – JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE HIM DOES NOT MEAN HE HAS SEEN YOU.

It is also important to stop somewhere where you can easily be seen. Do not stop around the corner or pull off the road to get some shade as rider behind may not see you. This stuffs everything, if you take off to catch them the riders after that also miss the turn and it can be a long time to turn around the first wayward rider, and the rest. That said, you too need to be alert and looking for the rider in front of you if you are anywhere near an intersection.

If you get to an intersection and are not sure which way to go STOP. Stop all other riders behind you and wait for the sweep, he will then set you in the right direction. To take a guess can cause you to get lost and waste a lot of time.

Likewise, if you see the rider in front of you go past an intersection you have any doubts about, slow or stop to ensure the rider behind you does not get confused. If you are constantly aware that you are responsible for the rider behind you at all times and any doubts you may have could be worse in the mind of who is behind you, there should not be any troubles.

Keep an idea of how far the other rider is behind you. If it seems like a long time for them to arrive it is best to wait until someone in front comes back to you, preferably the lead. The sweep will get to a rider that has come off or is broken down quicker than you and there is not the risk of running into another rider coming the other way. If you do decide, either on your own or with someone else, to go back to see what is happening, take it very slowly and carefully keeping well to the left. You may find it was a simply fixed breakdown and they are now going extra quick to catch up. A head on between riders travelling together is very common when one turns around to go back and look for their mate.

If you are behind a rider that is going slower than you like and you cannot get past them safely on the road, signal them at the next corner to let you past. Similarly, if you have a rider hard behind you, signal them when you are ready for them to overtake or wave them through at the next corner.

Be careful when passing, it is not a race.

Be extra careful on blind corners, unlike trail riding there are cars, 4wd’s and even trucks on all of the roads and most are locals and therefore think as they know the roads they can, and do, go faster than they should. It is a long wait for an ambulance and an even longer trip out.

For bigger groups (10 or more) advise the lead or sweep if you know the roads or sections of roads you are travelling on, an extra person who knows where they are going can be travelling mid field to help keep things running smoothly.

On another note I have the waypoint and route files from my Magellan GPS if anyone wants it, PM me and I will email it through. I also have a track log for 80% of it which I will email through as well, it would have been 100% if Maso hadn’t stuffed it up. You give a bloke one job to do??????

[peteMember]

Messing with the tried and tested cornerman system could be a confusing situation, we all know cornerman and have been doing it for years, personally I think you will find that we will will all be fairly close together and it will all flow pretty good.

PTW

[Chris LaanMember]

pete the wulf wrote:

Messing with the tried and tested cornerman system could be a confusing situation, we all know cornerman and have been doing it for years, personally I think you will find that we will will all be fairly close together and it will all flow pretty good.

PTW

Not looking to change for change sake, several ADV style groups I have riden with use this system as in this type of riding there are bigger differences in speed than single trail riding. The quicker riders don’t mind waiting but hate following and the slower riders hate having the quicker guys either sitting up their arse or tearing past them after every stop (me included).

No problem to me, just a suggestion, if I go I have been asked to sweep so my position won’t change.

[scott bockingMember]

Welcome to the site Shedmarket!
Good of you to step in and help out. I am sure between you and Maso and the small group you will have a great day out. Without you guys this would not have happened.

STM

[Dwayne OMember]

Yeah,
You guys should be fine withthe longer route …
We managed over 600k on the recent Nav ride on the second day.
All the guys following you along are experienced enough & can handle themselves pretty well

Really bummed with my new work plan that stops me attending,, but that`s life :unsure:

Don`t stress about it Maso, all will be fine & it will be a great intro to the OBT clan for ya
I will plan a weekend in the New Year to get myself up there as I really want to ride that area myself !!!!

Cheers

[David MasonMember]

When you do come up Eagle make sure you give us a bell as we ride virtually evey second weekend and would be glad to show you around.

I am sure everything will go OK next weekend.

Looks like the longer route is virtually locked in.

Weather permitting we can modify it on the run next Saturday

It has been raing here all night and looks pretty set in.

[scott bockingMember]

Hey Maso,

Same deal on the North side of town mate. Nothing heavy, just light showers on and off. I have ordered this until Tuesday night then cool and clear through the weekend with light winds.

STM

[Chris LaanMember]

Not sure if this will work but I have seen someone else post some files up here so (if it does work) you should see the waypoint file, route file and track log (most of it anyway, see previous post).

Didn’t work, back to message me and I will email them to you

Any problems let me know. The .log should open in Google Earth.

Cheers

[David MasonMember]

singletrackmind wrote:

Hey Maso,

Same deal on the North side of town mate. Nothing heavy, just light showers on and off. I have ordered this until Tuesday night then cool and clear through the weekend with light winds.

STM

We have had some heavy stuff here in town last night. So dust wont be a problem I don’t think.

Watching the radar seems as though west of us up where we are headed is copping the same sort of weather.

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