Cush Drive inner tube modification XT660Z Tenere

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  • #100493

    Greg
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    Searched this link after a discussion with Nick tonight. I still have a couple of new sets to use up first but will be experimenting with this afterwards. I have searched and found mixed results with this but new rubbers every 3 to 4 thousand kms is getting beyond a joke. Am sure one of us will post up how it goes sometime in the future. I wont be trying it until after I get back from Camerons, I reckon it will be better on an away trip to stick with what we know works for at least 4k ;)

    http://www.xt660.com/showpost.php?p=113529&postcount=1

    Thanks to XT660.com

    TB

    #208886

    Greg
    Member

    Well it’s time for me to try this idea as I have run out of cheap genuine cush drive rubbers :( The set in my bike have done 4600 km and is causing a vibration at 4000rpm that will give your feet pins and needles in mins :angry: honestly not even 5000 kms and there are rooted. I cut some rubber pieces today in between painting when the minister wasnt looking :laugh: and will try them out tomorrow

    TB

    #211266

    Cush drives……. they should be put back into history books. The first bike I owned was a CT 125 Honda. it had cush drive on the rear sprocket. They too lasted about 6 months. They are a throw back to the days when the Japs converted road bikes to trail bikes.
    I can’t believe they have made a comeback and they are actually considered a “good” feature. Same goes for poxy rubber mounted handle bars while I am on a roll.
    Seat straps will make a comeback next, followed by helmet locks and fully enclosed chain guards lol.

    #208887

    Matt Hobbs
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    So how did the inner tube experiment go TB?
    I saw the original xt660 thread back in the day also, and thought that looks like the go.
    I haven’t done enough km for the first change out yet, but if this is a long term solution I will do it straight up.

    #211551

    Hi Desert Matt,

    I don’t know how TB finished up but I am doing mine this weekend and will take some pics and report back.

    Cheers, TT

    #211553

    Greg
    Member

    I have cut the pieces and have taken a heap of pics of all the sets and why and how they wear Matt but after a closer inspection I reckon the mod can be improved even more. I will be fitting the rubber pieces tomorrow actually and will take some pics. The 2nd stage mod I will also take pics of as I make them, this mod will do for now. I have been through 7 sets of rubbers now and reckon I have some experience with why they wear :laugh: and can improve on this, time will tell but.

    The set in the bike now have done 4600kms and are the worst set I have had in for vibration etc.

    Will take the rest of the pics tomorrow

    TB

    #208888

    Greg
    Member

    Here is an insight into the Tenere cush drive, the wear and the problem as I see it

    Yes Eagle I didn’t was the bike :laugh:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCN1nFsnxB0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJhN187N1eo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro8ldj4gQV4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT1Ii7PSLxk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    I fitted my last set of new, I am worried that the inner tube will create a bigger gap between the two hubs thus letting more dirt in to accelerate the wear. The bulk of the people that are doing the mod on XT660.com are motard riders and soft off roaders from what I can tell. I am going to modify the rubbers as I explained in the last video to stop them twisting on the small nipples, the rubber will be no wider than the nipples are new but have more surface area

    Oh and Eags I washed the bike after I finished

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    TB
    Oh and Eags I washed it when I finished

    #211605

    Nick Jackson
    Member

    Great vids their TB , I think your onto something mate ;)

    #211610

    Hi TB, I think you are on to something. I am pulling mine off tomorrow and will check them out and depending on their condition, I may just grind off the teats and try your glue mod instead.

    It makes sense that if we can stop the twisting and subsequent wear, they should last much longer. I will report back on how it went.

    Cheers, TT

    #208889

    Dwayne O
    Member

    Great informative vids there mate ;)

    Thank Christ my Kato rubbers are different design to those Yammy ones :whistle:
    They are more rubust looking with a groove thet allows them to fit snug over the hub splines, no flimsy joinnf bits lie the Tenere rubbers ,,,,,,

    As far as I know, mine are the original rubbers and there is stuff all movement with 13,000 odd k on the clock ,,,,

    I really don`t care whether you washed the thing or not !!!! :dry: :laugh:

    #208890

    Dwayne O
    Member

    BTW, I reckon your theory sounds like as good one, Glueing some HD Rubber onto the teetless faces should be a good start ;)

    A bit of a worry with the wear on the inside of the hub :blink:
    I would like to think Yamaha would be onto the problem with some more interest in resolving the problem :whistle:

    #211618

    I hope it works but to be honest, I don’t think the glue will be strong enough. If the glue doesnt hold, then the main rubber may slip between the other pieces and wear even quicker.
    So is the cush drive a new thing to the Tenere’s or did the older ones have it too, and if they did, did they have the same problem? You would think that if the old ones did it they would have avoided them for the newer model.

    #208891

    Dwayne O
    Member

    There are some good adhesives for rubber around, but it is still a gamble :whistle:
    One certainly worth trying though ;)

    Good point Jeffro on the older models ?????

    #211624

    Greg
    Member

    There different Jeffro. Thing with the rubber is the glue will only really be for assembly. once its packed in the tight it shouldn’t matter, meaning there shouldn’t be that much movement to let it move if you catch my drift

    Time will tell :blink:

    TB

    #211627
    Trailboss wrote:
    There different Jeffro.

    TB

    That’s good to here B)

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