Financial/life advise for a young bull

[Anonymous]

nah but ollie likes long walks on the beach with young boys

[DavidMember]

squirrel wrote:

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nah but ollie likes long walks on the beach with young boys

Quick trip eh Squizz
Knew you wouldnt be able to keep away

[DavidMember]

Forgot though Squizz your trip over seas is really to the other side of the pond,

[DeanMember]

Diddel wrote:

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They don’t pay that well do they?

You got be kidding? after initial training,which is 18mths, cheap housing,free medical/dental lots of leave (35 working days a year)dont work hard (remember govt job)around about 65k a year for starters at sea.

Its a hell of a lot better now then when I first started,

Ollie

[Anonymous]

The others seem to have gievn good advice Diddel, I wouldn’t recommend giving up your apprenticeship. I did and apprenticeship and wanted to quit a number of times to go and earn more money like my mates were.

I earn waaaaaay more than they do now, all because of a solid trade and sticking it out. Experience and training are key to getting a good job.

I think the Navy would also be a great job too, great benefits, breadth of experience and you get to travel.

I work in the oil and gas industry (land and offshore) and have jobs that will have you travelling the globe on the company whilst earning good money, so when you have some experience, particularly if it’s electrical/instrumentation (I know you said you were a fitter) based give me a shout

[LiamMember]

Moto wrote:

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The others seem to have gievn good advice Diddel, I wouldn’t recommend giving up your apprenticeship. I did and apprenticeship and wanted to quit a number of times to go and earn more money like my mates were.

I earn waaaaaay more than they do now, all because of a solid trade and sticking it out. Experience and training are key to getting a good job.

I think the Navy would also be a great job too, great benefits, breadth of experience and you get to travel.

I work in the oil and gas industry (land and offshore) and have jobs that will have you travelling the globe on the company whilst earning good money, so when you have some experience, particularly if it’s electrical/instrumentation (I know you said you were a fitter) based give me a shout

“electrical/instrumentation” :ohmy:
Both fighting words amongst fitters.
Surely there’s fitters sniffing around oil and gas?

[LiamMember]

Ollie wrote:

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Diddel wrote:

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They don’t pay that well do they?

You got be kidding? after initial training,which is 18mths, cheap housing,free medical/dental lots of leave (35 working days a year)dont work hard (remember govt job)around about 65k a year for starters at sea.

Its a hell of a lot better now then when I first started,

Ollie

I’d call 65 not well. Plus I don’t want an easy job sitting around, I prefer to be doing stuff.

[john morganMember]

patience, dude.
save your pesos,finish time, buy around world ticket, — adventure,jobs,girls will flow. If you want some versatility , do a bar course… there are miles of short term jobs for backpackers, paying cash ..having a ball.like I mentioned prevoiusly, my brother did this for nearly 10 years until he found what he wanted.. actually it found him,right place,right time thing.

sometimes youve just gotta pick up dog turds for a while before you get to own a dog….enough bullshit wisdom .I`m getting another turkey..its friday..

[JohnMember]

My advise.

Finish your apprenticship before anything else. I done my fitter trade (no welding jokes Gob or Menace) and then went to Kalgoorlie. The first place i went to asked when i could start. $32 an hour plus extras. Not bad for a young bloke over fifteen years ago. Only thing to keep in mind is the cost of living in these places is out of control. eg a four bedroom 2 bathroom house started at over a grand a week.

But your young, get the apprenticship out of the way while saving some coin, then load the car and set off to the unknown. Last bit of advise would be to do it on your own, friend or girlfriends dont last long in these places.

[LiamMember]

JAK wrote:

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My advise.

Finish your apprenticship before anything else. I done my fitter trade (no welding jokes Gob or Menace) and then went to Kalgoorlie. The first place i went to asked when i could start. $32 an hour plus extras. Not bad for a young bloke over fifteen years ago. Only thing to keep in mind is the cost of living in these places is out of control. eg a four bedroom 2 bathroom house started at over a grand a week.

But your young, get the apprenticship out of the way while saving some coin, then load the car and set off to the unknown. Last bit of advise would be to do it on your own, friend or girlfriends dont last long in these places.

Guess I’ll just stay around finish here then start looking unless something finds me before.
I know this is the sort of stuff I want to do but exactly where in the huge field I’m not to sure, guess try as much out then pick .
Unrelated but in all honesty is leco work (hahahahaha) at all interesting?
Stuff moving interests me so fitting and machining is perfect.

[Anonymous]

There are plenty of fitters in oil and gas, but they don’t get the money the sparky/instrumentation guys get. They work on PLC based control systems and whilst they might not be moving themselves they do in a lot of cases control everything that does move. You can test one without testing the other.

I’m not saying change, I’m just saying if that sort of opportunity comes your way you should consider it, especially as you seem to want more money. There will be a ceiling as to how much you can earn as an outright fitter. To get more you will likely need to go and do something else and for that you will need experience and training too

[Graeme PattersonMember]

whoever suggested navy may be right. good training and not too bad a wage to start with and definetely diesel training and big bastards at that. Saw some patrol boat cranks and blocks up at Teterins in Newcastle a few years back and was amazed
Ex navy guys that have put in for trades jobs at the mines in my area (central west NSW) are highly regarded and seem to get into the mining game easier than guys out of factories etc. A big problem with factory trained fitter and machinists is that the fitting has taken a back seat and machining/fabrication is their forte. Most mine sites contract out a lot of their machining/fabrication so good fitters are in demand and the machines always need repair and maintenance. Most mine sites dont tend to repair broken components, they change them out and send it away for repair. Very modular type of work.
Tradesmen are going to be in bigger demand in a few more years as us older guys retire. When i started there were over 60 mech appenticeships per year in my district whereas for the last 15 yrs there have been less than 20 on offer. 40 years ago they had to bring alot of poms over due to the skills shortage and history looks like repeating itself, but pommieland is short of tradesmen as well so bugger knows where they are gonna find them.
Currently in my 29th year as a fitter at the same mine i started at.

[Jeffrey SmithMember]

Here is some info about apprenticeships in Gove NT, will pass on anymore info I get if I get it.

A company called Group Training employ the apprentices here. You may be able to get details from their website or from RTA’s Gove site. There is a notice on the Group Training site saying “Apprenticeships and Traineeships now available. Call (08) 8987 3473 and speak to Robyn or Rachel”

Cheers

[DeanMember]

Diddel wrote:

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Ollie wrote:

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Diddel wrote:

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They don’t pay that well do they?

You got be kidding? after initial training,which is 18mths, cheap housing,free medical/dental lots of leave (35 working days a year)dont work hard (remember govt job)around about 65k a year for starters at sea.

Its a hell of a lot better now then when I first started,

Ollie

I’d call 65 not well. Plus I don’t want an easy job sitting around, I prefer to be doing stuff.

Diddel my young learned virtual friend, please tell me where 20 year olds are on a salary of $65K + benefits (lets say an additional $20k)Most of my young guys are driving around in SS or XR6 utes! Most of them still complain about not getting enough :dry: wait till they get a family and a mortgage :laugh:

[LiamMember]

Ollie wrote:

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Diddel wrote:

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Ollie wrote:

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Diddel wrote:

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They don’t pay that well do they?

You got be kidding? after initial training,which is 18mths, cheap housing,free medical/dental lots of leave (35 working days a year)dont work hard (remember govt job)around about 65k a year for starters at sea.

Its a hell of a lot better now then when I first started,

Ollie

I’d call 65 not well. Plus I don’t want an easy job sitting around, I prefer to be doing stuff.

Diddel my young learned virtual friend, please tell me where 20 year olds are on a salary of $65K + benefits (lets say an additional $20k)Most of my young guys are driving around in SS or XR6 utes! Most of them still complain about not getting enough :dry: wait till they get a family and a mortgage :laugh:

Most the blokes lucky enough to have started their apprenticeship at 16.
Cars won’t become an interest until I make more then I can spend on bike :laugh:.

Thanks Jeffro I’ll keep that in mind just encase I don’t stay here and finish, see what happens.

Moto I’m after money and enjoyment, I enjoy fitting. Leco stuff doesn’t appeal to me in the slightest, plus the people doing it seem odd :silly:.

ekips where I’m working we get rotated around 6 monthly, 1 of the rotations (my next one) is a big machine shop so I’ll largely gain fitting knowledge. I want both but don’t think I would like machining for a living.
In my time at my current location I’ve seen 1 tradie fitter under 30 so when the blokes running the places around cark it I should still be sniffing around and ready to take their places.
Lots are the ex bhp trained so once they all retire there’ll be a huge gap to fill.

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