food for thought…

[GregMember]

Well Bruce you would be a better person than 99% of the population history proves that.

TB

[GregMember]

Trailboss wrote:

Well Bruce you would be a better person than 99% of the population history proves that.

TB

To explain that better I guess not many people could say heart on hand that they wouldn’t get on board in business for big bucks Bruce really I mean it’s a living. We don’t live in a perfect world.

Who makes a bike that they have designed to consume short term consumables for short term profit? No one I can think of bar maybe pit bikes or the likes. Anyone that makes a shitter doesn’t sell because of word of mouth. Most people buy a new bike now days get a decent run out of it from new, is a bike designed to go a second and third owner trouble free?

The guy that makes chain gang sprockets explained he closed because he makes too good a product, his sprockets outlast the cheap sprockets at least 4 to 1 (at least) but his sprockets are twice as expensive. People won’t buy then even though they will happly buy 4 off the cheap ones over the life of them owning the bike. Thus that just cost them twice as much, not including extra chains etc. The other side to the better sprocket is that he only sells one to the guy per bike per owners life as most people only do 1 to 2 thousand a year and keep the bike for 3 to 4 years. One sale that’s it for making a better product. The owner of chain gang told me that himself because I was there and asked why they were closing, the above was the reason, them making a better product was putting them out of business

I don’t have any answers, I do know I liked the simplicity of rebuilding my two strokes in years gone by. I won’t own a high revving fast wearing small bore four stroke so I don’t know :laugh:

Just my thoughts and 1 cents worth

Glad your back Bruce enjoy the thought process mate

TB

[dennis da menaceMember]

Trailboss wrote:

Everybody wanted what won on Sunday and they wanted it on Monday thus created the demand. KTM very much uses that marketing tool with the Tady’s, Knights etc, its good business.

TB

maybe in the 80’s :laugh: :laugh:

your kidding your self TB !!

most average joe riders wouldnt have a clue who Taddy (GOD) or Knighter or any of the Euro riders.

they, like me, bought my KTM because it was the best bike on the market for what i waned it for.

face it, a lot of punters buy bikes coz thats what their mate rides and it is fully sick…

or they like the colour.

the difference is marketing, thats true

…and also combined with a superior product…

thats more suited to the trailriding enduro wanna be
instead of concentrating on the small corner of the market where the big Yanky dollars are like all the japs.

why cant Yamaha bring back the YZ250WR, or Suzuki the RMX250, or the Kwaka KDX250 ???

shit, the Euro Enduro market cant be that hard to break into, can it??

seems so…

Ba Humbug you silly japs :laugh: :laugh:

[GregMember]

Yeah I could be wrong Menace won’t be the last time :laugh: You are right of course the reasons people bikes are many and varied I only offered one that I know the bike companies do racing for, marketing and yes a better product results from the racing as well

I don’t know why they stopped making WRs, RMXs etc I think it’s like Blue said and some emission requirements I know it’s affected what we do at Cummins.

Having owned two big bore two strokes I reckon they rock and again the only bike I would swap my beloved XR up front for without blinking is a rego CR500 I have said that for years now

TB

[alanMember]

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