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January 6, 2009 at 5:19 am #116961
Trailboss wrote:
Quote:Why Mick, do they vibrate? And shake the bolts out?TB
Dunno? Fall off most likely.WE never had the plastic one on there.
January 6, 2009 at 5:55 am #116963Hey Ecks, yes I have the force bashplate and the radiator guards and yes I did chose these over other brands, I like the idea of the one bolt holding the bashplate, the way it fits under the frame I cannot see it coming loose and the bolt is up high, away from any rocks or anything hitting it, the Force rad guards no. 1 were black and I liked the black they also looked to be more solid than the other ones they showed me. I didn’t fit them so can’t comment on how the rad guards went on but the bashplate has been off a couple of times and couldn’t be any easier.
When I find my camera I’ll take some pics for you.
Cheers
Chris.January 6, 2009 at 6:05 am #116968Sorry Chris my bad, you told me they just fitted the bash plate and rad guards as a throw in extra so I thought you didn’t have a choice. Does it clip under the front or back, reason for asking is if the single retainer is hit or the plate get hit hard as happens and the bolt get sheared which way does the plate hinge?
You hear of bash plates loosing bolts all the time, I saw a hurt rider a couple of years ago from a bash plate falling off, nasty stuff
TB
January 6, 2009 at 7:00 am #116969
AnonymousThe KTM ones don’t vibrate at all, they are very good. I would prefer a proper bolt in there though as opposed to the quick release fastener.
Sounds like you got your bike sorted right from the get go Chris
You’d have to be unlucky to get collected and rooted by your bashy.
January 6, 2009 at 9:03 am #116972I think the quick release gizmo on a bashplate is a gimmick. Bashplates should be tough and able to withstand a “bashing” If you race and may need ultra quick access to the belly of your engine, maybe:dry: but for us trailriders that have kids and a mortgage I think I would prefer something tough and industrial like the whipps or B&B (cant comment on force as I have not seen one)I have seen more than 1 of those plastic KTM plates in the bush moto’s being one of them.The hyde protector I am using on the gasser is very good although can be slow to remove when you have to,I like the way it also protects the expansion chamber and waterpump.
Just my Opinion
ollieB)
January 6, 2009 at 9:57 am #116981I have got whipps with a Dzuz fastner and it is very solid it is an absolute bitch to get on and off as it is so tight. Just bolt something on there and go ridin(yey hah) you could spend your life uming and aring.
January 6, 2009 at 9:34 pm #116982Ollie wrote:
Quote:I think the quick release gizmo on a bashplate is a gimmick. Bashplates should be tough and able to withstand a “bashing” If you race and may need ultra quick access to the belly of your engine, maybe:dry: but for us trailriders that have kids and a mortgage I think I would prefer something tough and industrial like the whipps or B&B (cant comment on force as I have not seen one)I have seen more than 1 of those plastic KTM plates in the bush moto’s being one of them.The hyde protector I am using on the gasser is very good although can be slow to remove when you have to,I like the way it also protects the expansion chamber and waterpump.Just my Opinion
ollieB)
Hmmm… the pics in my first post are a KTM with a plastic Hyde bashplate on… needless to say he now has an alloy version! He swore by his too… until the rock flipped up from the front wheel and punched a hole in the ignition cover by flexing the plastic bashplate. Then he just swore AT it! Not trying to be a negative sod but thought you might like to know!
January 6, 2009 at 9:43 pm #116983
AnonymousOllie wrote:
Quote:I think the quick release gizmo on a bashplate is a gimmick. Bashplates should be tough and able to withstand a “bashing” If you race and may need ultra quick access to the belly of your engine, maybe:dry: but for us trailriders that have kids and a mortgage I think I would prefer something tough and industrial like the whipps or B&B (cant comment on force as I have not seen one)I have seen more than 1 of those plastic KTM plates in the bush moto’s being one of them.The hyde protector I am using on the gasser is very good although can be slow to remove when you have to,I like the way it also protects the expansion chamber and waterpump.Just my Opinion
ollieB)
That’s only because I didn’t do the clip up properly after checking the oil level. I agree with though that an Aluminium plate would be stronger and eliminate those unusual moments where a rock flexes the plastic enough to take out part of the engine. As mentioned, mine has been great……so far:dry:
January 7, 2009 at 8:29 am #117094ECKS-Man wrote:
Quote:Ollie wrote:Quote:I think the quick release gizmo on a bashplate is a gimmick. Bashplates should be tough and able to withstand a “bashing” If you race and may need ultra quick access to the belly of your engine, maybe:dry: but for us trailriders that have kids and a mortgage I think I would prefer something tough and industrial like the whipps or B&B (cant comment on force as I have not seen one)I have seen more than 1 of those plastic KTM plates in the bush moto’s being one of them.The hyde protector I am using on the gasser is very good although can be slow to remove when you have to,I like the way it also protects the expansion chamber and waterpump.Just my Opinion
ollieB)
Hmmm… the pics in my first post are a KTM with a plastic Hyde bashplate on… needless to say he now has an alloy version! He swore by his too… until the rock flipped up from the front wheel and punched a hole in the ignition cover by flexing the plastic bashplate. Then he just swore AT it! Not trying to be a negative sod but thought you might like to know!
I agree alloy is best,I like to run alloy bashplate with a carbon fibre pipe gaurd.Im in the process of making both for my gasser. The Hyde is a loaner from a mates bike. good info though I will have to get my arse into gear and finish mine off:dry:
cheers Ollie
January 7, 2009 at 10:05 pm #117295
AnonymousI’m surprised you haven’t got Gili on the case :laugh: Where is he these days, I thought he;d be full of beans after a trip back to see the missus?
January 7, 2009 at 10:09 pm #117331Moto wrote:
Quote:I’m surprised you haven’t got Gili on the case :laugh: Where is he these days, I thought he;d be full of beans after a trip back to see the missus?he might have eloped?:laugh: He starts back on the 12th
ollie
January 7, 2009 at 10:11 pm #117332
AnonymousChrist, he had some good time off then! I should have joined the Navy!
How are you making the pipe guard? Are you moulding it from a borrowed one or just making it from a temp mould on the bike.
January 8, 2009 at 12:41 pm #117334Hey Ecks, here’s a few pics of the rad guards and bashplate
Cheers
Chris.
January 9, 2009 at 5:30 am #117335Moto wrote:
Quote:Christ, he had some good time off then! I should have joined the Navy!How are you making the pipe guard? Are you moulding it from a borrowed one or just making it from a temp mould on the bike.
With the pipe gaurd I just lay it up on the actual pipe. I have made about 4 of these so far,only problem is Im running low on Carbon Fibre:unsure:
ollie
January 9, 2009 at 9:26 pm #117573
AnonymousI’m sure the Navy will supply you with more
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