GOOD MORNING MICK !!!!

[GregMember]

Moto wrote:

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Good link, it has every single type of riding we don’t do.

Oh my bad, before I saw you quote results from the european enduro circuit, I didn’t realise you rode that either? :blink:

[Anonymous]

The point, as you well know is that you can all the Honda victories you want down our throat. thefact is that they are (almost) all irrelevant as they are for a style of riding that none of us partake in.

Enduro is relevant as that’s the type of riding we do. You’ll never admit it, and will come back with some other dribble Baja this Garnd Prix that, grass track blah blah blah but where are ethe enduro results.

The World ENDURO Championship event is dominated by KTM. Go cry in your milk.

[GregMember]

Moto wrote:

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The point, as you well know is that you can all the Honda victories you want down our throat. thefact is that they are (almost) all irrelevant as they are for a style of riding that none of us partake in.

Enduro is relevant as that’s the type of riding we do. You’ll never admit it, and will come back with some other dribble Baja this Garnd Prix that, grass track blah blah blah but where are ethe enduro results.

The World ENDURO Championship event is dominated by KTM. Go cry in your milk.

I can what the Honda victories? thefact what? Some of us do the baja style events as you will this year at yellow mountain, anyways I thought it was interesting with the history before ktm even came into the sport KTM are the best Moto its ok I said it

[Mick DMember]

Howzit that a thread called “GOOD MORNING MICK” has got a ton of dribble on it and I haven’t posted for the last 15 or so posts?

[dennis da menaceMember]

OMG…..

its a sad day indeed, when moto has broken the great TB enough to say he likes KTM’s

come on TB, theres more in ya, wheres the “never say die (like a)Honda attitude”

ya might ride a girly red bike, but youre an aussie…..think of the flag, (its got red in it!) stand up and fight!!!!!

raaaaaaaa!!!!

menace

[GregMember]

menace wrote:

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OMG…..

its a sad day indeed, when moto has broken the great TB enough to say he likes KTM’s

come on TB, theres more in ya, wheres the “never say die (like a)Honda attitude”

ya might ride a girly red bike, but youre an aussie…..think of the flag, (its got red in it!) stand up and fight!!!!!

raaaaaaaa!!!!

menace

Menace I am old enough to know you cant put brains in statues, I dont care anymore really I dont

[dennis da menaceMember]

Trailboss wrote:

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menace wrote:

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OMG…..

its a sad day indeed, when moto has broken the great TB enough to say he likes KTM’s

come on TB, theres more in ya, wheres the “never say die (like a)Honda attitude”

ya might ride a girly red bike, but youre an aussie…..think of the flag, (its got red in it!) stand up and fight!!!!!

raaaaaaaa!!!!

menace

Menace I am old enough to know you cant put brains in statues, I dont care anymore really I dont

you’re goin into the shame file……

……SHAME…..

you used to be cool man, what happened:P

[Anonymous]

menace wrote:

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OMG…..

its a sad day indeed, when moto has broken the great TB enough to say he likes KTM’s

come on TB, theres more in ya, wheres the “never say die (like a)Honda attitude”

ya might ride a girly red bike, but youre an aussie…..think of the flag, (its got red in it!) stand up and fight!!!!!

raaaaaaaa!!!!

menace

That’s what happens when you’re wrong

[Bruce CurtisMember]

Good morning Michael, Mick did you ever notice that Husqvarna that was a very resource poor manufacturer without a huge budget has also dominated the enduro world for long periods? in a very tasteful colour scheme with functionality and a humble attitude that their austrian conterparts could take stock of.

Yamaha has also made quite a dent despite not actually having dedicated enduro models for a decade, must have meant their MXers were something out a very specail box.

But one has to give it to KTM they can afford to hire riders that have outstanding abilities and can ride around any problems inherent in any design, and to support this all it takes is add another couple of hundred dollars to the price of each bike, and as welle because the top riders only use genuine “hardparts” the overblown racing budget can be supported by the many merinos who utilise these “top value hardparts”, cause the top lads do. Fairly simple equation that is tried and true, throw a lot of money into the high exposure areas of your niche’ market, then on monday morning as aresult your product rolls out the door in droves, sorta like Harleys really.

Just a theory of mine, cause you know the Sum of the parts must be lesser the the whole.

BC

[Anonymous]

Well Bruce, what you say may well be true, but if so can you blame them? After all it’s business right, and the aim of business is to be profitable (seeling bikes) and achieve success (winning races).

Assuming they do pay the top riders more to come ride for them (I’m pretty sure they do too), isn’t that a good business strategy? How big are KTM compared to Honda or Yamaha as a company? Miniscule. If Yamaha/Honda/whoever aren’t paying the top riders to stay with them, who’s fault is that? If that then leads to reduced bikes sales then who’s fault is that?

I’m not saying this beacuse it’s KTM and I ride one, I would say it if it was any other company who have done what they have. At the very least you have to say they understand the market which has helped them sell bikes. Because they now have this profile, I’m sure they get plenty of people buying their bikes without ever even sitting on one or even contemplating another brand.

That’s Yamaha/Honda/Suzuki/Kawasaki/and whoever else’s fault though

[Bruce CurtisMember]

Ah Glasshopper we see things the same through different glasses, of course as you say makes good business sense, will never refute that, but this does not necessarily led to a better product.

and if we all rode the same bikes it would be boring, like harley riders who’ve never rode a jappa.

BC

[Anonymous]

Agreed And I for one would like to see better bikes with advacements in technology and not just new sticker kit a different colour forks from year to year.

[GregMember]

Moto wrote:

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Well Bruce, what you say may well be true, but if so can you blame them? After all it’s business right, and the aim of business is to be profitable (seeling bikes) and achieve success (winning races).

Assuming they do pay the top riders more to come ride for them (I’m pretty sure they do too), isn’t that a good business strategy? How big are KTM compared to Honda or Yamaha as a company? Miniscule. If Yamaha/Honda/whoever aren’t paying the top riders to stay with them, who’s fault is that? If that then leads to reduced bikes sales then who’s fault is that?

I’m not saying this beacuse it’s KTM and I ride one, I would say it if it was any other company who have done what they have. At the very least you have to say they understand the market which has helped them sell bikes. Because they now have this profile, I’m sure they get plenty of people buying their bikes without ever even sitting on one or even contemplating another brand.

That’s Yamaha/Honda/Suzuki/Kawasaki/and whoever else’s fault though

I am shocked at you steven:huh: , take into account that the 4 big Jap companies Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki have had success throughout the whole of the motorcycle world, not just one form of the sport, also take into account they the Jap manufacturers have always been the first with major technology updates,the new husaberg engine is the first exception to mind.
Yes KTM have spent well with riders and racing, what wins on Sunday sells on Monday is the oldest saying around motor sport in all forms that I know and good business

Watch in the years to come, how will Honda in America go at Baja when Campbell retires, how will KTM go know that the knighter and his co riders left for BMW, how will Susuki go with Chad Reed, Yamaha with Bubba, Huski with Hollis, Grabham with KTM, any of the above could win on any brand.

You also fail to notice that KTM are giants in their chosen racing / manufacturing world be that enduro they are the biggest with the biggest budget in Europe, that’s their core business and are only Minuscule (to quote you) in the manufacturing world because they don’t make so many models, cars, loader, dump trucks, stationary engines, lawn mowers, out boards, jet skis etc etc etc

And you have said the above with passion becuase you do ride a KTM, don’t kid yourself :silly:

I don’t believe any one brand is better, they have different features and different things that we all like or hate, these cant be measured or acturately compared, that’s the only true fact

I am not writing this for a war and I know you will have the last word, but we cant compare apples with (in this case) oranges, it will serve justice to no one brand

TB

[Anonymous]

You got totally the worng end of the stick mate. I didn’t write it out of passion for any brand. I merely provided an alternate view to Bruce’s previous post stating the fact you can’t blame a team of paying people top dollar to race for them.

I was (in the main) agreeing with what Bruce has had said but provided an opposing view along the same basic points. Bruce saw this and understood without problem, which is why he responded like he did. You seem to prefer to start raving about my passion for KTM and other stuff.

Yes, you are right, enduro might be KTM’s core business, but my point still remains. The big boys have a budget. Who sets the budget? The parent company. If they want to steal riders off KTM like KTM did from them they had better dig deeper. The money Kawasaki or whoever make from their various different divisions/companies ultimately ends up in the same place.

[GregMember]

There it is above the last say

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