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December 7, 2014 at 8:24 am #104283
Heads up guys and girls , NSW pleece farce have been booking people for having helmet cams .
December 7, 2014 at 9:00 am #260544Here is the ADR for helmets if it works.
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December 8, 2014 at 10:51 am #260545Interesting how it is ok for police to attach a Scala Rider Comms set to their helmet. I suppose it is the same as why they can use mobile phones while driving.
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Yesterday at 1:34am ·
The interesting thing about this January 2014 article is it says they contacted Police about helmet-cams and all said they were legal.
Back in January 2014.
The MCC advice is: if you are booked for having a helmet-cam, fight it. Get a Solicitor and ask your Solicitor to contact the MCC. We have information that will help.Rider to contest fine for GoPro on helmet – Motorbike Writer
The motorcycle rider fined for wearing a GoPro on his HJC helmet plans to fight the charge. Matt Smithson was fined $289 and three demerit points for wearing a…
MOTORBIKEWRITER.COMSam Cannuli Dear Sirs,
I was issued with Infringement Notice No XXXXXXXXXXXXX on the basis my helmet is not in compliance with NSW Road Rule 270.NSW Road Rule 270 requires a rider to wear “an approved motor bike helmet” NSW Gazette of 5 November 2010 at Page 5402 carries the definition for “an approved motor bike helmet” for purposes of Road Rule 270.
This definition provides for “approval” through a sticker attesting compliance with a nominated standard.
helmet cam
Infringement noticeMy helmet continues to bear the approval sticker as required.
A camera is an accessory. Many accessories are available for helmets. Accessories are distinct from a modification.
Removal of an accessory returns the helmet to original condition, while modification of a helmet does not.
There is no NSW regulation that provides for revocation of approval of a motor bike helmet.
My helmet was “approved” prior to purchase and it is because it was approved for use on NSW roads that I purchased it.
The standard referenced in the definition of Page 5402 of the Gazette of 5 November 2010 is not a regulation and contains no regulatory subject matter that provides for approval or revocation of approval.
The referenced standard is not a NSW in-service regulation. Without doubt, I was and continue to wear an approved helmet. The presence of an accessory camera is irrelevant.
This Infringement Notice is not based on NSW regulations and I request that it be withdrawn.
Yours, etc
November 28 at 5:39pm · Unlike · 2Sam Cannuli I have spoken to the authority on helmets and in his words the police are fabricating and issuing fines for helmet cameras and there is no such law in this area. No laws exist re the use of accessories on helmets. Do not pay the fine and use the above letter.
November 28 at 5:55pm · Unlike · 3Brett Blackshaw Dont do as I do, do as I say. One rule for us and one for them.
November 28 at 7:38pm · Like
Brett Blackshaw You have to remember the state has been mismanaged to the point of bankruptcy by successive governments. They need to defraud everyone of their hard earned somehow.
November 28 at 7:41pm · LikeSam Cannuli The traffic cops are all on the nose at present when it comes to bikes….my advice is to record all conversations and take your own photos and videos for evidence. They will learn.
November 28 at 9:16pm · LikeTony Robson All I have to say on the matter is Michael Schumacher is now completely screwed because of a helmet mount go pro, and besides which a lower angle like a chest mount or fairing mount are much better shots. Food for thought people. i wouldn’t wear one on my skid lid, thats for sure. Pick your fights
November 28 at 10:21pm · LikeDecember 8, 2014 at 10:45 pm #260546Yep same up here in Q’land, heard the other day of someone getting done by the cops for having the camera on top of the helmet :angry: :angry:
December 9, 2014 at 12:49 am #260566Is it for all helmet cams? Or is it ones that the mount it stuck to the helmet with adhesive?
I’ve read some discussion that the adhesive of stickers and repainting helmets isn’t advised as its believed it can affect the structural strength of some composite helmets.
If the argument hangs on the Aus approval sticker being present, what about helmets that meet or exceed the standard, but the sticker has fallen off?
December 9, 2014 at 3:55 am #260570xy-transit wrote:I’ve read some discussion that the adhesive of stickers and repainting helmets isn’t advised as its believed it can affect the structural strength of some composite helmets.They have no problem putting a compliance sticker on the helmet, so what is the difference.
December 9, 2014 at 6:24 am #260571I think at the end of the day it is about having something hanging off your approved helmet that when in a crash it affects the crash protection of the helmet. They are trying to say that you have compromised your safety by having a camera mounted to it. So cop a fine
I personally don’t get it as when you crash and your helmet hits say the gutter a camera is not going to get in the road of protection.
The visors are mounted so when in a crash they pop off by using plastic screws. So why would a stuck on camera be any different?
Just my thoughts
Boze :pinch:December 10, 2014 at 10:34 pm #260572Michael Schumacher (Ex Go-Pro user)
December 23, 2014 at 6:35 am #260573As an MA scrutineer, we have a rule book that outlines what is a safe helmet and which is not.
The easiest way to see if a helmet will pass scrutinizing is by – name, approved sticker and the condition of the helmet. eg; cracks or deep scatters will not pass.
Accessorizes to helmets like visors – shield or sun, goggles & go pros are in my opinion fine. I would not knock a helmet back with these accessories.
The problem with the boys in pink, is that they to have a rule book, but it is only a guild line.
We will have to wait till it is tested in a court of law. When it is, and I hope it is, as I think he has a good chance of winning, please post the result.O. myself, I have a go pro chess plate for riding in the dirt, as I’ve seen heaps helmet go pros GO. Trees love helmet go pros.
When on a road bike I would have a helmet cam. -
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