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January 11, 2010 at 10:01 am #97880
From the Vertex website
2 Stroke
After disassembling the cylinder head and the cylinder, it’s necessary to measure the actual cylinder diameter (1),
using a dial bore gauge. When actual bore size is known then it is time to pick the right VERTEX piston to fit your
bore size, respecting the clearance suggested with the cylinder (i.e. CR 125 clearance 0.05 mm).
Open the piston box, take the ring and position it inside the cylinder bore. Measure the gap (2) between the two
ring ends: it must be between a minimum of 0.25 and a maximum of 0.50 mm; if necessary adjust the ring end
gap dimension using a file (3). Take special care when performing this step.
We are now ready to assemble the ring into the piston groove: first of all pay attention to not crush or damage
the ring during installation, every precaution should be taken not to compromise the ring integrity with the groove
and to not reduce the rings retaining pressure.
Attention must be paid to any markings (i.e. T) on the rings surface: always position the ring with the written part
on the top side.
Introduce before the ring from the side opposite to the locating pin and turning it as it was a spring taking care
to not damage the groove during the operation. After verifying that the rings do not have strange creeping or
binding, position the ring tips around the locating pin.
We are now ready to assemble the piston and cylinder. A light coating of two stroke oil should be applied to the
piston with the ring(s) assembled. Position the arrow printed on the piston dome toward the exhaust side, install
one circlip on the opposite side you will slide the pin thru and pressing the ring (or the rings) into the groove one
by one starting from the top slide the cylinder assembly over the rings. When this is complete carefully lower
piston and cylinder onto the connecting rod and slide piston pin thru piston and rod and install circlip. If you prefer
you may install piston onto connecting rod first and then compress ring(s) and install cylinder (4).
Assemble cylinder onto cases and install cylinder head and torque all fasteners to the recommended specs in
your owner’s manual.4 Stroke
After disassembling the cylinder head and the cylinder, it’s necessary to measure the actual cylinder diameter (1),
using a dial bore gauge. When actual bore size is known then it is time to pick the right VERTEX piston to fit your
bore size, respecting the clearance suggested with the cylinder (i.e. CRF450 clearance 0.05 mm).
Attention must be paid to any markings (i.e. T) on the rings surface: always position the ring with the written part
on the top side.
To assemble the rings on the piston you must start from the oil ring and introducing as first the spring (2) paying
attention to not place one on the top of the other the two extremities. After setting the two foils one up and the
other down at direct contact with the groove, taking care that the open tips must be at 120° from the spring open
tips.
We are now ready to assemble the compression ring(s) into the piston groove(s): first of all pay attention to not
crush or damage the ring during installation, every precaution should be taken not to compromise the ring integrity
with the groove and to not reduce the rings retaining pressure.
Introduce before the 2nd groove and after the 1st groove ring turning it as it was a spring (3) taking care to not
damage the groove during the operation. After verifying that the rings do not have strange creeping or binding,
position all the rings using the rule of the 120 deg. for each ring tip.
We are now ready to assemble the piston and cylinder. A light coating of two stroke oil should be applied to the
piston with the rings assembled. Position the arrow printed on the piston dome toward the exhaust side, install
one circlip on the opposite side you will slide the pin thru and pressing the ring (or the rings) into the groove one
by one starting from the top slide the cylinder assembly over the rings. When this is complete carefully lower
piston and cylinder onto the connecting rod and slide piston pin thru piston and rod and install circlip. If you prefer
you may install piston onto connecting rod first and then compress rings and install cylinder (4).
Assemble cylinder onto cases and install cylinder head and torque all fasteners to the recommended specs in
your owner’s manual.Ollie
January 11, 2010 at 10:43 am #167980thanks ollie, thats gonna come in very handy soon
January 11, 2010 at 11:05 am #167986whats the best brand of piston ollie got a vertex in the ktm at the moment was just going to use the same next time
January 11, 2010 at 11:19 am #167990white rocket wrote:
Quote:whats the best brand of piston ollie got a vertex in the ktm at the moment was just going to use the same next timeRocket I think Vertex has a very good reputation, I am going to use a wiseco on my next topend rebuild as Stefan from R&D Husky got one for me at a really good price. When I pull the engine down If the Vertex piston is Ok I will just replace the rings first then do the Piston kit later on.
BTW I found out that wiseco rings are 3mm and vertex are 2.7mm so they are not interchangeable.
Ollie
January 11, 2010 at 7:57 pm #167981Ollie, I am no mechanic or anything so am likely to be wrong. I have been told that when you are putting a piston on you are much better off using a ring compressor and sliding in from the top of the bore. What reallt annoys me is I can’t remember the reason why but I think it had something to with the gap in the bore lining at the bottom of the cylinder catching the rings on installation. Any thoughts?
January 11, 2010 at 10:24 pm #168003Gyday Roy,as it says in the How to bit,you can do it either way,personally I have always done it with the piston already attached to the conrod without any real issues before,trying to insert a circlip while holding up the barrel would be pretty fiddly,especially with my gumby fingers :laugh: (you have to know me to understand)
cheers Ollie
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