Huskies 2 year warranty is it lip service

[Jason GreenMember]

I can’t believe that a engine needs to be rebuit with so little k’s done! I know it must be great to have the latest and greatest bike but is it really worth it? I know my XR400 is just a trail bike and it is not a hightech enduro weapon but I still love to ride it you can drop it and it won’t break a thing all it needs is a electric leg oh well Iam still on the same piston and rings that was over 5000ks ago! If I wanted to replace it what bike would be as durable as it? 😆

[Dwayne OMember]

I am thinking the same way XR
My good old KLX has nearly 16,700 ks on the same engine :laugh:
Sure, it is gutless & in no way shape or form a weapon except when TB rides it :laugh: But it still goes & goes & goes

I would love a new fancy bike too but, all that replacement of parts (for warranty) sounds like a big handbrake to me

All the best with the Husky Mal, it is a nice machine afterall.

[PaulMember]

Well my Beemer is still going well at 140hrs and 6500Km and I never had the 70hr ‘service’ done.
Just a couple of bearings on the idler gear that need replacing now but that is not serious.

TB, there was no ‘fine print’ you just needed to read the owners hand book, then load the CD manual onto a computer and read what it says to do for ‘service the engine’, it’s all there.
I did look at the hand book but didnt ask to look at the CD before I bought the bike.

I also priced some parts like oil filter and brake pads before I bought the bike, brake pads have since gone up by $33 so they are now $120 for originals, but the originals have lasted a full year, 6500Km and a fair few muddy rides.

BMW says the work should be done by a specialist workshop, this is true because of all the special tools required, I expect only a BMW workshop will have them.

The dealer knows I haven’t done the 70hr and says the bike is still covered by warranty, just not any problems caused by not doing the 70hr service.

[GregMember]

Yeah well pointed out WB, I so much didnt mean just the fine print but guess I was trying to make a point. Has the bearings made a difference to the noise? $120 for over 6500kms of brake pads there is nothing wrong with that

Please dont think for a minute I am disrespecting the BMW or the Husky for one minute, as I said to Mal last night there are only two bikes that interest me as a new bike choice at the minute and a Husky is one of them. But for the cost I would look to only keep it under warranty for about 6 months, like I said its like insurance and you need to weigh up how much spent against how much saved against probable future expense

I watched Tougher Then Iron last night Andreas Lettenbicher was incrediable on the 450 BMW to finish 2nd and a credit to the BMW

TB

[PaulMember]

I wasn’t taking it as disrespect to BMW, but point is a good one.
Personally I think if I was concerned that the serviceing needed to be done by the book, I’d be better off trading the bike in for a new one at 70hrs.
I wonder, if I did that would BMW do the 70hr before re-selling the bike?

I haven’t done the bearings yet, I’ll get around to it soon though.

[Anonymous]

EAGLE`02 wrote:

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I am thinking the same way XR
My good old KLX has nearly 16,700 ks on the same engine :laugh:

Yes, but your mileage figure isn’t comparable to most as they are mainly road K’s and you do ride the bike sensibly. I’d be interested to see how it fairs after having it’s nuts revved off in the bush for 16,000 Km’s by someone who doesn’t mind hitting the rev limiter.

I’m glad you got your bike back Mal, I hope it gives you many hours of joy. Your patience was much better than mine would have been given the same situation, to take that long for a bike so new is disgusting.

[timMember]

well done Mal, now we can get in some riding for the A4DE.

I had a warranty claim on a 06 Husaberg 550 which I purchased second hand with 64.8hrs on it, one of the main bearings failed and went through the engine causing $2600 damage, I had only done 16hrs on it(80.8hrs) when I took the bike in for repair I was told it was not covered due to the mains not being replaced at 65hrs as per the maintainence book, I also went to fair trading and they advised that I should go back to the dealer I purchased it from as they should have completed this component replacement before on selling the bike with warranty, surprise surprise once I mentioned fair trading the bike got fixed within a week (8 weeks total)
My advise, stand up for yourself and take it further if need be

[Scott SouthwellMember]

Moto wrote:

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EAGLE`02 wrote:

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I am thinking the same way XR
My good old KLX has nearly 16,700 ks on the same engine :laugh:

Yes, but your mileage figure isn’t comparable to most as they are mainly road K’s and you do ride the bike sensibly. I’d be interested to see how it fairs after having it’s nuts revved off in the bush for 16,000 Km’s by someone who doesn’t mind hitting the rev limiter.

I’m glad you got your bike back Mal, I hope it gives you many hours of joy. Your patience was much better than mine would have been given the same situation, to take that long for a bike so new is disgusting.

I don’t know about the KLX but my old 98 XR250 easily did those Km’s on the same engine. I’ll bet this little engine spent more time at the rev limiter than any of the high power race engines. I’m sure most like to believe they are riding there 450’s and the like at the limit but lets face unless your racing Fink, the Safari or spend all your riding time on fire trails there’s no way you could hold one of these things at the rev limiter for long.

As for the little XR, it had so little power the throttle was more like a switch, ya basically held it at the stops with the valves bouncing. Yes I know not a highly stressed race motor but still took more of a bashing than most would these days.

With the lattest race motors making more power than we need maybe the manufacture should offer slightly detuned less stressed versions of these engines. They would still have more than enough power for most and not need as much mantanence. I think Yamaha have done this with the WR250R. It’s a softer version of the WR250F. I havn’t seen the service intervals but im betting the R is longer than the F.

I would like to see a WR450R, that is a bike that would interest me.

[Jason GreenMember]

I purchased my xr400 from the police auction she had done nearly 5000ks the oil was very dirty and she was burning it the bike had done alot of hard work.I spent $800 for a top end rebuild with the head done new seals ect the bike is ridden mostly off road sometimes its ridden hard too! my point is they don’t make bikes too last like this so this why I still ride a xr :cheer:

[Scott SouthwellMember]

XRTRAILHACK wrote:

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I purchased my xr400 from the police auction she had done nearly 5000ks the oil was very dirty and she was burning it the bike had done alot of hard work.I spent $800 for a top end rebuild with the head done new seals ect the bike is ridden mostly off road sometimes its ridden hard too! my point is they don’t make bikes too last like this so this why I still ride a xr :cheer:

Police bike with 5000kms. That oil is most likely the oil it left the Honda factory with.

TB’s right about the warranty being like an insurance policy.

My car has a 5 year warranty so even though it cost a bit more I get it serviced by the dealer I bought it from even though I don’t have too. Just peace of mind that if something goes wrong they can’t say it wasn’t done right.

[Anonymous]

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I don’t know about the KLX but my old 98 XR250 easily did those Km’s on the same engine. I’ll bet this little engine spent more time at the rev limiter than any of the high power race engines. I’m sure most like to believe they are riding there 450’s and the like at the limit but lets face unless your racing Fink, the Safari or spend all your riding time on fire trails there’s no way you could hold one of these things at the rev limiter for long.

As for the little XR, it had so little power the throttle was more like a switch, ya basically held it at the stops with the valves bouncing. Yes I know not a highly stressed race motor but still took more of a bashing than most would these days.

With the lattest race motors making more power than we need maybe the manufacture should offer slightly detuned less stressed versions of these engines. They would still have more than enough power for most and not need as much mantanence. I think Yamaha have done this with the WR250R. It’s a softer version of the WR250F. I havn’t seen the service intervals but im betting the R is longer than the F.

I would like to see a WR450R, that is a bike that would interest me.

I think you missed my point there a bit Scotty. I wasn’t referring to me or my 450. I meant exactly what I said, I wonder if eagles KLX would have faired so well with someone giving it curry through the bush for 16,000 Km’s. I’m also not saying the engine would have failed, it’s just we should appreciate that the quoted figure isn’t the same as someone quoting 5000Km of hammering their Wr250 through the bush. It’s just a supposition, not a ‘I ride my bike harder than you’ contest.

The service intervals on the WR are crazy, they are something like 5,000Km’s for oil changes!! It totally eclipses the WR-F in terms of service. A 450 version would be like a yamaha version of the DRZ, but with fuel injection, more power one would expect and mayeb even a smidge lighter though the WR-R is much heavier than the WR-F

[Bruce CurtisMember]

There is nothing radical in either the BMW or husky engine designs that would suggest replacement at those low hours so i interpret those “service periods” as get out of gaol free tickets for the warrantee. Now I know with roadbikes and tintops the servicing to ensure warrantee issue was cleared up years ago by the courts, and basically as long as it is done by a licenced mechanic in a licenced premises it matters not weather it is adealer for that brand or not.

I would also go as far as to suggest Husqvarna and BMW are bound by that same precedent.

The WR 2Ts are a bit hit and miss in the QA dept, good ones go forever and are awesome bikes to ride and instill a good rep, but the lemons die in minutes, and that’s why I think it’s a QA issue.

Bruce Cee

[Scott SouthwellMember]

Moto wrote:

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I think you missed my point there a bit Scotty. I wasn’t referring to me or my 450. I meant exactly what I said, I wonder if eagles KLX would have faired so well with someone giving it curry through the bush for 16,000 Km’s. I’m also not saying the engine would have failed, it’s just we should appreciate that the quoted figure isn’t the same as someone quoting 5000Km of hammering their Wr250 through the bush. It’s just a supposition, not a ‘I ride my bike harder than you’ contest.

The service intervals on the WR are crazy, they are something like 5,000Km’s for oil changes!! It totally eclipses the WR-F in terms of service. A 450 version would be like a yamaha version of the DRZ, but with fuel injection, more power one would expect and mayeb even a smidge lighter though the WR-R is much heavier than the WR-F

Ah yes I see your point, although I would still back the KLX/XR on a km for km basis riden by the same average trailrider under the same conditions. Riden by a world champ, different story.

Point here is the manufacturers warrenty doesn’t differentiate between riders. If poor old Eagle was to buy a high performance bike with a long warranty period and putter around the bush with it he is expected to service it at the same period as some top gun rider.

Now from what I understand the BMW for one has a very high tech engine management system that stores a lot of data on how the engine has been run. Surley this data could be used at the service period to determine if the engine really needs such a major rebuild.

As for 2T, it’s should just be a quick topend strip down and inspection of parts to determine if a new piston is needed.

[Anonymous]

Scotty wrote:

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Ah yes I see your point, although I would still back the KLX/XR on a km for km basis riden by the same average trailrider under the same conditions. Riden by a world champ, different story.

Agreed.

Still, when I say my bike has done 7,500Km without any issues it’s not comparing apples with apples with eagle when he says the mighty KLX has 16,000 trouble free Km’s.

But you are right in terms of warranty, the manufacturers don’t care where they were racked up.

I think warranties are lip service and in a lot of cases after the bikes are a few hours old not worth the paper they are written on unless you have a great dealer.

[GregMember]

Moto wrote:

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Scotty wrote:

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Ah yes I see your point, although I would still back the KLX/XR on a km for km basis riden by the same average trailrider under the same conditions. Riden by a world champ, different story.

Agreed.

Still, when I say my bike has done 7,500Km without any issues it’s not comparing apples with apples with eagle when he says the mighty KLX has 16,000 trouble free Km’s.

But you are right in terms of warranty, the manufacturers don’t care where they were racked up.

I think warranties are lip service and in a lot of cases after the bikes are a few hours old not worth the paper they are written on unless you have a great dealer.

I think your trying to compare apples and oranges guys, some how Moto you made it a pissing comp and about you :laugh: :laugh:

I think Eagles bike has done a great job as has your 450 Moto both in there design criteria.

TB

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