Just some of what we are up against

[Mick DMember]

Krusty wrote:

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Mick do you have an email contact for Jack and Kylie? PM me if so..

Cheers…

I do have a means of contact Krusty but cannot access it at work.

[ChrisMember]

micknmeld wrote:

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Krusty wrote:

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Mick do you have an email contact for Jack and Kylie? PM me if so..

Cheers…

I do have a means of contact Krusty but cannot access it at work.

Thanks Mick.. When you can please as I have info I think they will be interested in.. Sorry not for public consumption…

[PeterMember]

Hhmmm,

1) “Riding for recreation”.
Would challenge the STOP order as Im riding to round up the endangered potaroo, so its really farm work, not recreation.

2) Keep bikes quiet with decent mufflers, noise is the enemy. I have been guilty in the past of fitting a muffler cos it sounded good, and was loud. Think its time we changed our mindset on that.

3) Who is the enemy ? The overwhelming majority of problem riders would be un rego’d hoons. I’m all for stopping the hoons cos their bad behavior reflects on us.

2c.

[Scott SouthwellMember]

Riggs wrote:

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3) Who is the enemy ? The overwhelming majority of problem riders would be un rego’d hoons. I’m all for stopping the hoons cos their bad behavior reflects on us.

2c.

This is not always the case. On the weekend I took my kids to the river for a bit of fun swimming and kayaking. The area we went to was an area I used to ride as a kid but is now managed by national parks. They have spent the last ten years or so regenerating the area. It has big fences and signs every where stating NO TRAIL BIKES OR 4WD’s.

Two guys on fully registered 2010 KTM’s with all the gear decided the signs did not apply to them and at would be ok for them to ride through the gates along a footpath down through were about 200 people were picnicking and swimming. And we wonder why trail bike riders have a bad reputation.

There are plenty out there with rego and licences that do the wrong thing. I see many a registered bike out riding restricted areas when I’m out on my mountain bike.

[Bruce CurtisMember]

Firstly let me say.

Jack & kylie are not entirely blameless, maybe woulda been a good idea to keep the open exhausts down.

There are some very factual errors, the court transcripts of the prior agreements and mediations tell more of the story and how the agreements weren’t upheld by the victims whom became the aggressors.

Telling porkies to get sympathy never works, people fall for it initially then they discover the truth, remember it takes two to argue.

There is some very good news going to come out of Kyogle council later this year, next year and I need some backing, there will be a working group of affected and interested parties started and someone has put his job on the line to get this going, have 2 months to see some results. Hopefully at the end of it there will be some firm guidelines for
Private rec use
Crown lands rec use
Parking and amenities
light competition not needing to go before the full DA process
Heavy comp meetings getting a good look in.

It will be designed to give parameters to EVERYONE and once settled will be adopted as council policy for the good of all.

But again sometimes the ratbags make it harder for all, and sometimes people act as ratbags in retaliation to ratbags when they shouldn’t

[Scott SouthwellMember]

Mr Blue wrote:

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Firstly let me say.

Jack & kylie are not entirely blameless, maybe woulda been a good idea to keep the open exhausts down.

There are some very factual errors, the court transcripts of the prior agreements and mediations tell more of the story and how the agreements weren’t upheld by the victims whom became the aggressors.

Telling porkies to get sympathy never works, people fall for it initially then they discover the truth, remember it takes two to argue.

Haha, always two sides to every story.

[Rod WalkerMember]

No-one else finds it amusing that this Bob Wiley is a self confessed T-Bagger?

[GregMember]

Here you go people get your teeth into this press release I got today and go nuts

______________________________________________________________________________________________

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
23 November 2010
RECREATIONAL MOTORCYCLING IS A TOURIST BOOM

The Motorcycle Council of NSW (MCC of NSW) calls upon the NSW state government to immediately introduce Recreational Registration for off-road motorcycles along the lines of the Victorian model.

The benefits of such a scheme would be massive in terms of both financial and environmental rewards. For example:

• Regional tourism and businesses would profit hugely from recreational motorcyclists visiting various rider-friendly regions.

• A new wave of contributions to the CTP Scheme from riders who ordinarily would not contribute due to the nature of their hobby.

• The environmental impacts on our precious State Forests and National Parks would be significantly reduced with designated and dedicated one-way tracks designed for riders of all abilities, thus offering riders a legal alternative to riding illegally on unmarked or unsuitable trails.

It is clear that enforcement has, and will continue to fail, so it is incumbent upon the NSW state government to act in a positive and pro-active manner in this regard.

The MCC of NSW believes education, consultation and co-operation are the keys to a sustainable and economically beneficial recreational motorcycle segment of the growing tourism market.

The Chairman of the Motorcycle Council of NSW, Rob Colligan said: “For decades authorities have used the head-in-the-sand approach to recreational motorcycling. They tried to make it just go away, but these riders did not go away. In fact, their numbers kept increasing every year. So now is the time to set up a system that engages these riders in a mature and fully consultative manner.

“Many regions of Victoria rely on the tourism dollars that flow in as a result of their towns embracing recreational riders,” Mr Colligan went on to state. “With regional economies struggling in NSW, riders would flock to areas that offered good riding, good facilities and a welcoming attitude. It’s not rocket science. Give us an affordable scheme and riders will make sure that everyone benefits.”

THE MCC of NSW
United we ride – Divided we walk

For further information and all media enquiries please contact:
Rob Colligan – Chairman MCC of NSW
0401227731

The Motorcycle Council of NSW(MCC of NSW) was established in 1982 is the state’s pre-eminent motorcycle advisory group and represents over 50,000 motorcycle riders from 52 social clubs and motorcycling organisations.

[Scott SouthwellMember]

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• The environmental impacts on our precious State Forests and National Parks would be significantly reduced with designated and dedicated one-way tracks designed for riders of all abilities, thus offering riders a legal alternative to riding illegally on unmarked or unsuitable trails.

I don’t know much about Vic rec rego but when did they get designated and dedicated one-way tracks and how do they stop bikes riding unmarked, unsuitable trails? It will take a lot to convince me Rec rego is the answer.

[alanMember]

if you ride an unregersted bike or regersted bike does that make you a better person or ride on better tracks or should we mark our single track that still won t make it legal just let more people no where it is.don t ride a road bike so avoid those.if you still have to get a green slip for rec rego it will be a wast of time rego is the cheap part

[GregMember]

white rocket wrote:

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if you ride an unregersted bike or regersted bike does that make you a better person or ride on better tracks or should we mark our single track that still won t make it legal just let more people no where it is.don t ride a road bike so avoid those.if you still have to get a green slip for rec rego it will be a wast of time rego is the cheap part

Rockets so right, NSW uses green slips, REC rego will require green slips its the system NSW uses fact 1. Rego is 100 bucks its the cheap bit really fact 2

TB

[Bruce CurtisMember]

The insurance will be easy to work out, the insurance industry & MAA will get some data for average distance travelled per annum for a rec rider, get it underwritten and it will be proportionate of say a full rego greenslip.

Might need a show of hands in letters of support along the way lads, have 2 months to get the data and public forums/working group together and would be nice to have a real display of unity, as the working group will not just consist of pro-bike it will be chaired by a councillor, convened by the council, and representatives from RTA, SFNSW, NPWS, Green groups, Local clubs, rec rider reps and maybe MA.
So at the end there will either be a bloody broken mess or a workable model the first of its kind in the state, maybe even the country so it is important we get the balance right……

[GregMember]

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The insurance will be easy to work out, the insurance industry & MAA will get some data for average distance travelled per annum for a rec rider, get it underwritten and it will be proportionate of say a full rego greenslip.

Your dreaming Bruce if you reckon that will be easy. Thats the crutch of our problem now. Rego isnt the killer the green slip is. Rego doesnt go up stuff all compared to green slip costs (pull your rego papers our and look) Rec rego WILL require a green slip / insurance cost. If they subsidise rec rego every other motoring group will come screaming with the NRMA, Vic roads, trucking groups big powerful groups and lots of them. All that to allow bikes into the forest they already dont want us in?

If it was as easy as what you have written above we would all have cheaper rego and can ride the 2kms of road to the start of the bush.

Sorry

TB

[Dwayne OMember]

This is sort of related to the topic, I just thought it was funny & wanted to share it on here,,,

We have a close family member in the JH Hospital at the moment & my wife was there late last night visiting (all day & into the night actually, but that`s another cripe not for here) :angry:

Anyway, there was a young fella arond 20 or so there that had been injured in a fall in a local bushland area. He had struggled to make it back home alone, called an ambulance for assistance, then was transported to the hospital for treatment. Funny thing was that he was blowing up some hours after the incident because the local boys in blue paid him a visit at the hospital about the use of an unrego`d trailbike, while unlicenced and having an accident (which still is classed as a MVA because the Ambo`s were involved) :laugh:
He apparently was making all kinds of excuses such as,”I wasn`t on the bike when I called the Ambo” & “Why should it matter, there were no cars involved” etc etc :laugh:

I say, suck you know what, cause he also probably expects us to pay for his injuries & treatment. No wonder insurances are so damn high :angry:

That`s my opinion anyway!!!!

[Bruce CurtisMember]

TB you miss the point most of the claims moneys are from road rash riders, it would be very interesting to get hold of the data for claims upheld for bush riding alone, I believe it would be miniscule in comparison, ergo on a pro-rata the “greenslip” for rec rego would be along those lines , now remember there is another fund for uninsured MVA personal injury altogether which comes out of our medicare levy & general insurance levies (just for you Eags, Eagle, Eages, Beagle).
It’s easy for the insurance company TB, believe me I am on the working group of a large mutual fund and this sort of thing is not about the amount, data and analysis of trends is what the insurance industry is all about, and sometimes “colusion’ under the mantle of data acquisition but weather it will harm another section of the income stream, that’s the hard part to gauge, in toehr words they can do it, do they want to do it???

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