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October 17, 2009 at 2:40 am #156923
Ktmrat wrote:
Quote:TB in other threads you have said I am confussed so set me straight here,TB How many hours did you expect out of the MA , now that it has been established that 50 gazillion hours were put on by Mick and it was secondhand when he started…..and you are dirty at this??….Just checking, I know your paranoia about orange, and I understand it because I am the same with Green and yellow, the blue and red I tolerate, just,
So to recap you are upset that the main bearing went after all these hours of power display, I still recall your story about some fancy racer at one of the ride parks that Kieran Blew away continually and the Dad got the shits and packed up and went home, Oh thats right you never mention the good, So answer me this , whats the expectation you have of these, to go forever on one set of bearings,
I wonder if there was another 50cc make out there that put out the power the KTM did, would it last as long, it never ceases to amaze me that so called mechanically literate people dont have a firm grasp on mechanical cause and effect, you get nothing for nothing my friend, You expect (at least by your reactions it looks as if you expect full new performance with the second hand half sized price tagI cannot afford to buy new bikes for my to little racers, so second hand is the only option, when you have not been the one to service from the beginning you never know.
As far as the 85 goes, How come I only just find out now about the problem, dont forget Mate, I have only spoken over the phone with this one, I have not seen it at all, I am only saying seal from what you describe, How many second hand bikes are sold with the type of Backup I provide, None, I have even been told by some, “its second hand they are paying half price for it so the thing is worn, thats why the cheaper price, why are you giving it full price support when you didnt get full price”
Also as far as ECKS-Man saying
Bloody hell, that’s saying something!
Not without reason I’d reckon. Definately bike faults TB, obviously?
How many of these KTM 50 have you owned or been involved with, dont say stuff with out knowing you look as stupid as the person you are trying to suck up to, “Bike faults” what a crock of shit, go to any 50cc race in the country and the KTM’s are dominant, why because they cant be beaten, and they get big hours with the right treatment, and TB before you get on you high horse, the thing got the right treatment from you I am sure , but a worn out bearing will still fail with the right treatment when its expiry date is done.
So answer me
What did you expect TB and
was it realistic,
Take the “I love Honda/I hate KTM” glasses off and look at it impartially if you canDave you have taken my comments a bit wrong mate, I was trying to work out what was going on. My post was really more of a comment on the serverity of TB’s reaction, and you will notice the use of question marks? That means I was asking the question.
No problem though, I will back out of the room and leave you gentlemen to your spat!
October 17, 2009 at 7:14 am #156926ECKS-Man wrote:
Quote:Dave you have taken my comments a bit wrong mate, I was trying to work out what was going on. My post was really more of a comment on the serverity of TB’s reaction, and you will notice the use of question marks? That means I was asking the question.No problem though, I will back out of the room and leave you gentlemen to your spat!
ECKS-Man, my bad I did not see that, I get real upset at unrealistic expectations, you do not need to back out of any discussion , you have the right to voicing opinion like us all, Sorry again Mate no hard feelings
October 17, 2009 at 7:41 am #156924Dave you have issues and should have them looked at, see no smiley face added
You accuse me of “I love Honda/I hate KTM” glasses but what does any of this have to do with you. It isnt your bike, its not your workmanship you arent KTM so why are you so worked up
So unlike you to go of half cocked with the facts all arse up
Go back and reread the posts and you will see how I said it is a good thingTrailboss wrote:
Quote:something that handles and goes
TBI know its a 2nd hand bike thats why in the first post I said
Trailboss wrote:Quote:its a 2nd hand bike calm down its not about youTB
The reason you only just found out about the 85 is because I only drained and measured the oil that same afternoon I mentioned it
I haven’t asked you to take any responsibility for the 85 and wont be I understand 2nd bikes etc nor did I ever expect you to be responsible for it, you did all the talk not me
Please put the 50 parts in a box and I will take it home dont fix it
What I expected from these bikes was only the sort of run from all the 2nd hand bikes I have always had, I have only had one new bike in my life myself and the kids dont ride well enough to thrash them. We had CR80’s, RM’s60’s, MR 50’S, YZ100’s that went for years with no maintenance at all, none at all so maybe I expected wrongly something similar from these bikes
The only other 2nd bike I have ever had that gave me this much trouble and failed a main brg was my KTM 250XC two stroke strange eh
Dave if I cant be upset at the fact these failed because the kids dont have their bikes going well then I dont know what to do but you dont have to worry about it nor should you be going of unless the KTM Glasses are on
This has nothing to do with you expect you where rebuilding it which has nothing to do with the whole thing has it? No it doesnt
TB
October 18, 2009 at 11:24 am #156932Well after a discussion with Dave on the phone he understands I would have wished to burn the bikes as I said even if they happened to be Hondas
A couple of points cleared up
It is no reflection of Dave and his ability as a tuner or KTM owner
It was agreed I had stated it was a 2nd hand bike at the start of the thread and I had a better run over the years with other 2nd hand bikes
It was also agreed it had done a million hrs, and I had never disputed that in the entire thread
Dave is still rebuilding the MA50 which I am very happy with because he is the KTM mini bike king
And Dave may have gone off half cocked, I hope I can say that Dave :huh:
And it wasnt my comment that set him of.
Now back on topic
Dave will be sorting shortly what exactly has gone wrong with the little MA so we can have it ripping for Kieran again
TB
October 19, 2009 at 3:45 am #157054Yes I will let you know as soon as I know more TB.
KTM Mini bike King, I dont know about that, obsessive when it comes to power, well ….Yes totally…..
and in the 50 and 65 market the KTM’s are at the top of the power stakes(Cobra’s are biting at the heels of the 50 though)
Me going off half cocked…..Nah, whats the matter with shoot first and ask questions later(note to self…dont touch guns), I have been known to get excited around the mouth area
Kieran will be ripping it around again soon
RAT
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