Model confusion. help wanted please.

[alanMember]

axel wrote:

King STM wrote:

storky wrote:

You can do anything on a 300 enduro 2 stroke

Except getting more than 70 km’s out of one tank :laugh:

STM

That’s rubbish I get 130k on mine.

Hey Alan I see the road riding doesnt bother you the other day down along the river last Tuesday evening. I said the the wife – thats weird someone riding a Kato 2 stroke…. ah thats Al….

i rode it to work for three weeks axel car was out of rego it was a lot more enjoyable than the corrola :sick: it just needs another gear on the highway still fun around town :woohoo:

[Adrian GaleMember]

King STM wrote:

Hey Squizzy
Sounds like you have made an excellent choice for your young fella but a 300cc 2 banger is not really a bike to plod around on. Try finding a KTM 400, WR450 or a DRZ 400 in your budget.

STM

The King is right, a 300 sucks to plod around on. Thats how i feel on mine anyway. Even firetrails are boring unless the have jumps or sweeping corners on it when you can goon ride a little, or practice my wheelies. A 300 is made for single track and technical riding, fullstop.
I wont get into the fuel consumption debate as it varies soooooo much.

Get some type of 4 stroke that can be plodded on i.e all of them, and as listed here by others. You want to get a bike that you will ENJOY riding and not hate riding because it is not suited to your riding level . And as mentioned before test ride as many bikes as you can before you buy , you can ride my KTM 300 if you like. Maybe other Old Bulls might do likewise???

Just take your time, there are plenty of bikes to choose from.
Good choice on the KTM 250F. What does the COD lad think of it?

Cheers Galey

[peteMember]

Yeah it’s true the 300 2 bangers will only get about 70 klms out of a tank, until you do a simple rejetting ( with the ones that come with the bike ) and your good for 100 +, and what’s this about you can’t plod around on a 2T ? Mine will tractor around quite well until I want have some real fun and give a fist full. :woohoo:

[corey heatherMember]

Well i am happy to add to this thread and give you my personal experience. Most people know here know i ride a DRZ400 and i love the old girl. she can up the pace when i want it to she can cruise along when i need it to comfy and at the end of the day i feel pretty good. i service it every 500k’s, wash it, silcone spray it, sits in the shed on a trickel charge till i ride it again. LOVE that bike.

Now as a few of you know Nato my brother brought him self a gasgas 300ec it had a few issues when it arrived and was all fixed up by me and this required pulling every single bold out of it bar the tripple clamps. So i thought i would take it to coffs with me yesterday to give it a shake down so it didnt fail on him next weekend. It is a shit load of fun when you got it on song and getting into it but thats where it stopped for me. I found that it didnt like to just cruise along and i am about as fit as lets say TB so i can’t ride it on song all day long. but my biggest issue by far was the fuel range and yes i have seen axel gets 110k’s out of a tank but i can tell you all right here right now that the tank was full to the brim and i think its 9.5lt and i hit reserve at 71.4ks after singles and the widow maker so i took main roads back down to woopi and that was about another 15k’s and it was empty so i put my spare 1lt in and put it back on the trailer.
Now please don’t get me wrong the 300 was fun but not my idea of a TRAIL bike and today as of 9.12am i feel like i was first prize in a gay mardi gra raffle. :sick:

Buy a DRZ if you want something low maintance and a perfect allrounder or buy a 450 if you want something with sting and high maintance. or if you want a ass pounding and to be F@#KED at the end of a day buy the 2 smoker. or head to the gym and start working out. i under stand how Mal5.1 and ollie do it. Mal is fit and ollie is in the navy :kiss:

All this is only my opinion
Corey8

[peteMember]

I love the 2T’s but I must say that Corey is right, the DRZ is a good bike, personally I wouldn’t own one cause I like women but they are a decent bike and if it was a drz or nothing I wouldn’t complain I would trow my man bag over my shoulder, jump on the yellow beast and get riding.

[alanMember]

i sort of disagree with the thing about 2strokes being harder on the body i feel heaps fresher after a ride on my ktm300 than i did my ktm530 or wr400 i remember when i got my first 4stroke trail bike xr400 and done a pony express on it was absalutely smashed after it compared to how i felt riding a cr125 on the same track not nocking the xr but had a lot of fun on that bike .two strokes sound faster so they must be better

[corey heatherMember]

[quote=”white rocket” post=115660.two strokes sound faster so they must be better[/quote]

Oh i totally agree with you there, Just why did i sound like i was going so fast yesterday yet Nickj was still in front of me? :laugh: :laugh:

[GlennMember]

GaleyKTM300 wrote:

Just take your time, there are plenty of bikes to choose from.
Good choice on the KTM 250F. What does the COD lad think of it?

Cheers Galey

Thanks Galey, will do so. The lad does not know about the bike yet, its gonna be presented as a chrissy present. He’s a very lucky boy indeed, but I’m sure he’ll be over the moon. I know he’s keen coz I have been discussing the prospects of gettin back to dirt riding in recent months and he’s been very enthusistic about such ideas.

Corey8 wrote:

Well i am happy to add to this thread and give you my personal experience.

Now please don’t get me wrong the 300 was fun but not my idea of a TRAIL bike and today as of 9.12am i feel like i was first prize in a gay mardi gra raffle. :sick:

Ouch :laugh:

Corey8 wrote:

Buy a DRZ if you want something low maintance and a perfect allrounder or buy a 450 if you want something with sting and high maintance. or if you want a ass pounding and to be F@#KED at the end of a day buy the 2 smoker. or head to the gym and start working out. i under stand how Mal5.1 and ollie do it. Mal is fit and ollie is in the navy :kiss:

All this is only my opinion
Corey8

Hey Corey, thats terrific advice mate, cheers. Yes my fitness levels aren’t what they were :blush: and I know I need to improve such areas, but thats right a 2 smoker may just be a step too far …at this stage anyway

Thanks gang

[scott bockingMember]

squizzy wrote:

GaleyKTM300 wrote:

Just take your time, there are plenty of bikes to choose from.
Good choice on the KTM 250F. What does the COD lad think of it?

Cheers Galey

Thanks Galey, will do so. The lad does not know about the bike yet, its gonna be presented as a chrissy present. He’s a very lucky boy indeed, but I’m sure he’ll be over the moon. I know he’s keen coz I have been discussing the prospects of gettin back to dirt riding in recent months and he’s been very enthusistic about such ideas.

Corey8 wrote:

Well i am happy to add to this thread and give you my personal experience.

Now please don’t get me wrong the 300 was fun but not my idea of a TRAIL bike and today as of 9.12am i feel like i was first prize in a gay mardi gra raffle. :sick:

Ouch :laugh:

Corey8 wrote:

Buy a DRZ if you want something low maintance and a perfect allrounder or buy a 450 if you want something with sting and high maintance. or if you want a ass pounding and to be F@#KED at the end of a day buy the 2 smoker. or head to the gym and start working out. i under stand how Mal5.1 and ollie do it. Mal is fit and ollie is in the navy :kiss:

All this is only my opinion
Corey8

Hey Corey, thats terrific advice mate, cheers. Yes my fitness levels aren’t what they were :blush: and I know I need to improve such areas, but thats right a 2 smoker may just be a step too far …at this stage anyway

Thanks gang

Hey Squizzy
Corey has summed it up beautifully and when you find another bike you like the look of don’t be shy to post it up and ask the question. There are some passionate 300c 2T riders on this site and it is fair to say they all rip. They would feel they are manageable because of how competent they are on a bike but at the end of the day there are softer options for someone looking to get back into the sport. Besides, if you did end up with the 3 hundy your boy would flog it in time and you would be on the 250 anyway :laugh:

[Steve WyethMember]

If you can ride I reckon a 450 is the best all round bike. It will do everything well. A 300 2 banger is a close second. If you ride road or a decent bit of fire trail the 450 is the better machine, it handles long boring shit better. If you don’t often ride the road or lots of fire trail the 300 is the better bike in terms of fun factor. It is more involving to ride and harder to ride faster depending on your level of skill.

It does wear me out quicker than the 450 too but the engines are very unable so you can have it tuned as mild or as wild as you like.

The 300 is much easier to work on in general, though I think overall maintenance costs over a long period are probably similar for both bikes.

Fuel economy shouldn’t be an issue for any bike if it’s jetted properly, the 2 bangers are more sensitive to jetting for performance and fuel economy so changes make a more noticeable difference.

You need to have a ride of the bike before discounting it. If it comes down to a newer 2 banger or an older 4 banger for the same money and you are a mid level+ rider that doesn’t ride lots of open roads I’d take the 2 banger.

[GlennMember]

King STM wrote:

Hey Squizzy
Corey has summed it up beautifully and when you find another bike you like the look of don’t be shy to post it up and ask the question. There are some passionate 300c 2T riders on this site and it is fair to say they all rip. They would feel they are manageable because of how competent they are on a bike but at the end of the day there are softer options for someone looking to get back into the sport. Besides, if you did end up with the 3 hundy your boy would flog it in time and you would be on the 250 anyway :laugh:

Thanks King, terrific advice as usual . Yeh theres the devil in me in me that really wants that stroker and then there is this gloomy realisation that, the old cart aint what she used to be. So a bigger, more manageable bike is the sensible choice. But there’s this argument I keep having with myself. If I get the stroker, I’ll have to get fitter to get the best out of the bike and myself, so the bike would be kinda pushin me, and so if I go with it, then I’d get fitter and healthier as a natural consequence. While with something slightly more manageable, its likely it will be the other way round somewhat.

moto wrote:

If you can ride I reckon a 450 is the best all round bike. It will do everything well. A 300 2 banger is a close second. If you ride road or a decent bit of fire trail the 450 is the better machine, it handles long boring shit better. If you don’t often ride the road or lots of fire trail the 300 is the better bike in terms of fun factor. It is more involving to ride and harder to ride faster depending on your level of skill.

It does wear me out quicker than the 450 too but the engines are very unable so you can have it tuned as mild or as wild as you like.

The 300 is much easier to work on in general, though I think overall maintenance costs over a long period are probably similar for both bikes.

Fuel economy shouldn’t be an issue for any bike if it’s jetted properly, the 2 bangers are more sensitive to jetting for performance and fuel economy so changes make a more noticeable difference.

You need to have a ride of the bike before discounting it. If it comes down to a newer 2 banger or an older 4 banger for the same money and you are a mid level+ rider that doesn’t ride lots of open roads I’d take the 2 banger.

What can I say, great advice here again, this is really giving me some great insights, thankyou

Yes I’m lucky, I have a few road bikes and love them all. I mainly ride a Hayabusa 2nd gen, but also a Fireblade occassionally. If one were to transpose these two bikes, we could say the 450-500 would be more busa like, while the stroker more like the blade, is that stretching the bow a bit too far?

[Nathan HeatherMember]

I just got off a busa and there is no dirtbike i have seen that Will pull like the bus! I currently own the gasgas being talked about with the bad fuel economy which has new jets and needle and gearing on the way so if i remember i Will post up the change after the coffs ride.

[scott bockingMember]

Nato wrote:

I just got off a busa and there is no dirtbike i have seen that Will pull like the bus! I currently own the gasgas being talked about with the bad fuel economy which has new jets and needle and gearing on the way so if i remember i Will post up the change after the coffs ride.

Hey Nato
You won’t remember, but your brother will.

STM

[corey heatherMember]

King STM wrote:

Nato wrote:

I just got off a busa and there is no dirtbike i have seen that Will pull like the bus! I currently own the gasgas being talked about with the bad fuel economy which has new jets and needle and gearing on the way so if i remember i Will post up the change after the coffs ride.

Hey Nato
You won’t remember, but your brother will.

STM

If there is one thing he will try and remember after the weekend STM is “why is my ass so sore”

[scott bockingMember]

Corey8 wrote:

King STM wrote:

Nato wrote:

I just got off a busa and there is no dirtbike i have seen that Will pull like the bus! I currently own the gasgas being talked about with the bad fuel economy which has new jets and needle and gearing on the way so if i remember i Will post up the change after the coffs ride.

Hey Nato
You won’t remember, but your brother will.

STM

If there is one thing he will try and remember after the weekend STM is “why is my ass so sore”

That would be from the 2 stroke vibration :laugh:

STM

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