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  • #153150

    Greg
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    ECKS-Man wrote:

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    Trailboss wrote:

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    JRD wrote:

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    The owners of Louee only recommend 18psi because they change tubes for free.. It means less work for them..

    You dont think for second JRD that they want people to not get flat tyres there by enjoying there time and then wanting to come back to Louee instead of that place where you get all the flats tyres :huh:

    They also charge for there tubes, and only fit the ones you buy from them for free

    Not everybody has an angle to get us :laugh:

    TB

    No to be a cynic TB – well ok, maybe I am! But after changing fifty billion flats I am pretty sure they recommend 18psi not to ensure you have a good ride so much as to prevent them spending time changing tyres. And there is nothing wrong with that. Hell, for most of their customers I would agree 100% with their theory.

    Just take it under advisement and if you choose to run 18psi then you will be less likely to have a flat, but more likely to have less control of the bike. If you run less than 18psi, for goodness sake make sure you have a UHD tube, and try not to spear into sharp rocks. You will have more chance of getting a flat but I wouldn’t run 18psi there in a pink fit.

    I understand what you are saying ECKS, I also think that at a dry hot dusty slippery hard pack Louee, traction wise you wouldn’t notice the difference between 14 and 18psi just my opinion :blink: As I said before I dont care what people run, but I thought JRD’s statement was a bit out of right side ;)

    TB

    #153154

    Eric Smith
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    Trailboss wrote:

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    I understand what you are saying ECKS, I also think that at a dry hot dusty slippery hard pack Louee, traction wise you wouldn’t notice the difference between 14 and 18psi just my opinion :blink: As I said before I dont care what people run, but I thought JRD’s statement was a bit out of right side ;)

    TB

    Yeah, I get your point, but it isn’t really hard pack as such. I think loose rubble would be closer to the mark (if that makes any difference! Call is porridge, and it means the same thing!) The lower the psi on that surface the better really.

    I usually try to run 12 or maybe 14 because it conforms to the rocks better. I find you can get almost as much difference in the handling of your bike by changing the tyre pressure as fiddling with the forks. By running the lower pressures, smaller rocks don’t deflect the front wheel or jar through the bars as much. 18psi gives a harsher ride, and will deflect off rocks much more. It is a noticeable difference (14 vs 18 is mathematically about 20%) which you can notice just by pushing on the tyre with your thumb. Simple really, but the risk of flats does increase.

    #153159

    Greg
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    ECKS-Man wrote:

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    Trailboss wrote:

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    I understand what you are saying ECKS, I also think that at a dry hot dusty slippery hard pack Louee, traction wise you wouldn’t notice the difference between 14 and 18psi just my opinion :blink: As I said before I dont care what people run, but I thought JRD’s statement was a bit out of right side ;)

    TB

    Yeah, I get your point, but it isn’t really hard pack as such. I think loose rubble would be closer to the mark (if that makes any difference! Call is porridge, and it means the same thing!) The lower the psi on that surface the better really.

    I usually try to run 12 or maybe 14 because it conforms to the rocks better. I find you can get almost as much difference in the handling of your bike by changing the tyre pressure as fiddling with the forks. By running the lower pressures, smaller rocks don’t deflect the front wheel or jar through the bars as much. 18psi gives a harsher ride, and will deflect off rocks much more. It is a noticeable difference (14 vs 18 is mathematically about 20%) which you can notice just by pushing on the tyre with your thumb. Simple really, but the risk of flats does increase.

    OK ECKS sorry, was just going of the times I have been to Louee and my experience. I can test the theory by changing someones pressure during the weekend and I bet they dont notice but shouldnt play with anyone’s bike with out permission :angry:

    Also a little bit of slip if there was much difference maybe a concern going for a 100th of a second in the world championship but against preventing a flat, and besides I can just ride around a little traction loss and lets not start on dented rims if you ride hard enough

    TB

    #153162

    Eric Smith
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    Trailboss wrote:

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    TB :angry:

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    Don’t get cranky mate! :laugh:

    I reckon you would notice the difference, you don’t! Opinions opinions opinions! :kiss:

    You’re biased because you run mousses anyway! :P

    #153164

    Greg
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    ECKS-Man wrote:

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    Trailboss wrote:

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    TB :angry:

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    Don’t get cranky mate! :laugh:

    I reckon you would notice the difference, you don’t! Opinions opinions opinions! :kiss:

    You’re biased because you run mousses anyway! :P

    Whoops ECKS didnt mean for the 2nd :angry: its just everytime I use a smilie after I write a post and then add them they go next to my name and I dont why

    TB

    #153165

    Eric Smith
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    All good mate, I suspected as much! :laugh:

    #153166

    Greg
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    I will be running a tube in the rear this time, with an ultra heavy duty Michelin tube at around 18 psi, two reasons, no flats no dents :)

    TB

    #153168

    Eric Smith
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    Fair enough mate! You should try dropping the psi a bit to compare, and see what you think – prove me wrong, I don’t mind! ;)

    #153171

    Greg
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    ECKS-Man wrote:

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    Fair enough mate! You should try dropping the psi a bit to compare, and see what you think – prove me wrong, I don’t mind! ;)

    So if I drop the pressure and dent a rim, or get a flat whom do I bill?

    TB :laugh:

    #153175

    Eric Smith
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    Trailboss wrote:

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    ECKS-Man wrote:

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    Fair enough mate! You should try dropping the psi a bit to compare, and see what you think – prove me wrong, I don’t mind! ;)

    So if I drop the pressure and dent a rim, or get a flat whom do I bill?

    TB :laugh:

    :laugh: :laugh:

    Bill Boony, he’s rich! :woohoo:

    #153151

    Jason
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    ECKS-Man wrote:

    No to be a cynic TB – well ok, maybe I am! But after changing fifty billion flats I am pretty sure they recommend 18psi not to ensure you have a good ride so much as to prevent them spending time changing tyres. And there is nothing wrong with that. Hell, for most of their customers I would agree 100% with their theory.

    Yep they don’t want the work, especially for bugger all… Not worth the hassle in the small amount of money they would make on a tube.. Easier to take money at the counter for more riding customers….

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