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August 3, 2013 at 8:30 am #247501
➕1 Teza
August 3, 2013 at 9:46 am #241462Yep, I’m the same Teza. Just cop it on the chin. The risk (no CTP or a run in with the law) its just not worth it. Rec rego please………..
August 3, 2013 at 10:28 am #247503With rec rego if you want to take your bike from vic to nsw does this mean you get fined if caught riding it there?
August 3, 2013 at 11:00 am #247505Nato wrote:With rec rego if you want to take your bike from vic to nsw does this mean you get fined if caught riding it there?Yep
Rec Rego is only good in Vic
Ollie
August 3, 2013 at 11:27 am #247500Trailboss wrote:razzle wrote:Couldn’t agree more with Ollie … bring on Rec Rego in NSW!!Just had to re-reg the Berg, which I’ve hardly even ridden this year (you all know why), regardless it does bugger all Km’s on “the road” … why “FULL” rego? FULL CTP? etc.
I’m considering not bothering next year to be honest .. no cops anywhere to be seen where I ride (when I ride), no-one I ride with has rego … why bother??
If we had Rec in NSW I would not be asking the same questions … or considering the same “devil may care” situationMy Two Cents
RazzBecause you wont be on any OBT rides mate. While its not ideal and maybe not fair its what we have and its what we promote here at OBT.
Dream about rec rego it will never happen here in NSW while we have a green slip system, not Vics system. If we ever do something around rec rego IT WILL REQUIRE A GREEN SLIP and thats where we get ripped not the actual regoEverytime Ollie regos something this old chestnut pops up :laugh: :laugh:
TB
I know that OBT promotes legal riding etc etc , but honestly how are you going to police that ? no stickers in NSW now, dont hand your plate in and ride on, hopefully you wont be involved in an accident involving another vehicle etc or you happen to run across the police thats the risk you have to decide is it worth it ? Im only regoed because where I ride there is a very good chance of both. But where Razz rides up on the Mid North Coast pffftt. Nothing and I am sure that he is not alone.
My 2 cents
Ollie
August 3, 2013 at 11:35 am #241463Found my greenslip that is due at the end of the month for the rav, $304. Haven’t looked around yet for something cheaper but still not sure why there is such a big difference to the triton. Assume maybe weight.
August 3, 2013 at 11:53 am #247508Dickie wrote:Found my greenslip that is due at the end of the month for the rav, $304. Haven’t looked around yet for something cheaper but still not sure why there is such a big difference to the triton. Assume maybe weight.Dickie Id say postcode has a bit to do with it and also being a Ute they have a separate classification,but dont ask me why they are more exspensive to insure :dry:
Ollie
August 3, 2013 at 12:17 pm #247509Ollie wrote:Trailboss wrote:razzle wrote:Couldn’t agree more with Ollie … bring on Rec Rego in NSW!!Just had to re-reg the Berg, which I’ve hardly even ridden this year (you all know why), regardless it does bugger all Km’s on “the road” … why “FULL” rego? FULL CTP? etc.
I’m considering not bothering next year to be honest .. no cops anywhere to be seen where I ride (when I ride), no-one I ride with has rego … why bother??
If we had Rec in NSW I would not be asking the same questions … or considering the same “devil may care” situationMy Two Cents
RazzBecause you wont be on any OBT rides mate. While its not ideal and maybe not fair its what we have and its what we promote here at OBT.
Dream about rec rego it will never happen here in NSW while we have a green slip system, not Vics system. If we ever do something around rec rego IT WILL REQUIRE A GREEN SLIP and thats where we get ripped not the actual regoEverytime Ollie regos something this old chestnut pops up :laugh: :laugh:
TB
I know that OBT promotes legal riding etc etc , but honestly how are you going to police that ? no stickers in NSW now, dont hand your plate in and ride on, hopefully you wont be involved in an accident involving another vehicle etc or you happen to run across the police. Im only regoed because where I ride there is a very good chance of both. But where Razz rides up on the Mid North Coast pffftt. Nothing and I am sure that he is not alone.
My 2 cents
Ollie
Am surprised by your response Ollie and I guess if you or anyone decides to do that well its an individuals choice. This response isn’t really directed at you but a general response, its just that you suggested doing it so it sort of goes that way if you get my drift ok. So I ask why is it maybe ok as you suggested for someone like Razz just because the odds are better he may not have a head on, do the odds make it acceptable really? The risk of you hit another bike in a state forest and maybe another Old Bull or even a mate coming the other way lost or coming back to check on someone is to great for me. Imagine if either of you are injured and have medical expenses that the green slip may helped well I hope you saved the the money you didn’t pay for a green slip to help them and help you sleep. Make sure it isn’t me or one of my mates. I can imagine you whinging if the bloke that hit and injured you wasn’t insured and you had to pay your own medicals. It worries me and I hope that never happens to any of us here. And maybe this is another reason all rides will end up with MA requirements, day licenses and rego proof. Other places are doing it I just thought OBT would be different for most rides.
I pay 4 bike regos and one of them doesn’t even leave the shed, but one day it might. I never leave the driveway
without breaking a law one way or another so I won’t breech that crap to you. I don’t like paying them but I do in the hope if I need what green slip may offer it helps. I can’t justify all thats worth the cost of a green slip while I do think its to high I would rather have it than not.That’s my thoughts and opinions, any questions asked above aren’t really questions I want answered and it isn’t meant to be all at you Ollie or sound personal
TB
For the record I hate this whole topic and cringe whenever I see it
August 3, 2013 at 12:59 pm #247510Ok I knew this would occur :laugh:
I did not suggest anyone do anything ? I merely pointed out a fact. that if someone where to rock up to a ride on a bike that had a plate and looked legal,who would be any the wiser ? who would say sorry mate you cant come on this ride ? If they decide to ride their unrego bike and have an accident or the boys in blue rock up well thats the risk they should be prepared to be accountable for. Razz has a very good point, if we had Rec rego there wouldnt be an issue, 99% of all trail bikes would be legal. As Aido mentioned $72 for rego and $16 for a plate. (NSW must have higher quality plates as they charge $40)
The whole insurance biz in NSW is a sham and I wouldnt be surprised if their was kick backs going on left right and centre.
My mate Rick who now lives at Port Macquarie was hit by an unregistered yobbo on an old PE175 at wheel barrow ridge rd Colo Heights he got a broken knee out of it and no compensation,medical bills,Ambo costs etc so I know the risks and the potential cost involved,that is why I am registered.
Ollie
August 3, 2013 at 1:23 pm #247511Yeah like I said not meant directly at you Ollie you just highlighted something.
TB
August 3, 2013 at 1:35 pm #247512Ollie wrote:I merely pointed out a fact. that if someone where to rock up to a ride on a bike that had a plate and looked legal,who would be any the wiser ?Those doing the right thing, his mates
who would say sorry mate you cant come on this ride ?
I would everyday of the week, to protect me, the site, my house, my mates, their houses, their families and would expect most here to feel the same
If they decide to ride their unrego bike and have an accident or the boys in blue rock up well thats the risk they should be prepared to be accountable for.
Sadly it isnt that easy, then they sue someone else because they have no choice, dont be so gullible
Razz has a very good point, if we had Rec rego there wouldnt be an issue, 99% of all trail bikes would be legal.
Bullshit, 99% says who? Where did that figure come from? Why pay the rec rego Ollie had an idea leave your plate on and pay nothing who will check, you said it
As Aido mentioned $72 for rego and $16 for a plate. (NSW must have higher quality plates as they charge $40)
You fail to understand we have a green slip system, even if rec rego happened here and it wont, the rego may drop from 105 to 15 dollars (just figures plucked from the air) but because of NSW insurance system being different to VIC you will still need a green slip and that the expensive bit!!!!
The whole insurance biz in NSW is a sham and I wouldnt be surprised if their was kick backs going on left right and centre.
Yes it is
My mate Rick who now lives at Port Macquarie was hit by an unregistered yobbo on an old PE175 at wheel barrow ridge rd Colo Heights he got a broken knee out of it and no compensation,medical bills,Ambo costs etc so I know the risks and the potential cost involved,that is why I am registered.
Lets hope people dont read the ideas here and do it then eh
Ollie
Thanks for the chat Ollie, I have had enough. I know your one of the good guys and I will buy you a few rums when we catch up mate
TBAugust 3, 2013 at 1:56 pm #247513Trailboss wrote:Ollie wrote:I merely pointed out a fact. that if someone where to rock up to a ride on a bike that had a plate and looked legal,who would be any the wiser ?Those doing the right thing, his mates How would they know ? if he doesnt say anything
who would say sorry mate you cant come on this ride ?
I would everyday of the week, to protect me, the site, my house, my mates, their houses, their families1. How would you know? 2. What happened to “im going on a ride,if you wish to come you may, ” didnt think anyone or any entity would be accountable for a bunch of mates going for a ride ? Its not as tho its a club or a race “happy to be corrected if Im wrong”
If they decide to ride their unrego bike and have an accident or the boys in blue rock up well thats the risk they should be prepared to be accountable for.
Sadly it isnt that easy, then they sue someone else because they have no choice, dont be so gullible :huh:
Razz has a very good point, if we had Rec rego there wouldnt be an issue, 99% of all trail bikes would be legal.
Bullshit, 99% says who? Where did that figure come from? Why pay the rec rego Ollie had an idea leave your plate on and pay nothing who will check, you said it 99% is hypothetical should have said a ” most trailbike would be legal ” always going to be the dick head factor out there
As Aido mentioned $72 for rego and $16 for a plate. (NSW must have higher quality plates as they charge $40)
You fail to understand we have a green slip system, even if rec rego happened here and it wont, the rego may drop from 105 to 15 dollars (just figures plucked from the air) but because of NSW insurance system being different to VIC you will still need a green slip and that the expensive bit!!!! I understand the system
just saying the whole lot should be overhauled
The whole insurance biz in NSW is a sham and I wouldnt be surprised if their was kick backs going on left right and centre.
Yes it is
My mate Rick who now lives at Port Macquarie was hit by an unregistered yobbo on an old PE175 at wheel barrow ridge rd Colo Heights he got a broken knee out of it and no compensation,medical bills,Ambo costs etc so I know the risks and the potential cost involved,that is why I am registered.
Lets hope people dont read the ideas here and do it then eh They already are !!
Ollie
Thanks for the chat Ollie, I have had enough. I know your one of the good guys and I will buy you a few rums when we catch up mate
TB
your on
Im going to bed gotta ride tomorrow
Ollie
August 3, 2013 at 10:20 pm #241464I dont understand why the rules change from state to state,it would be much easier if it was all the same.
Rec reg is perfect for the weekend warrior that might only use thier bike on weekends and dont use it to commute. You still get full insurance coverage in an accident.
Does NSW have club reg for classic cars and bikes that only have limited use?
August 3, 2013 at 11:43 pm #247515aido wrote:I dont understand why the rules change from state to state,it would be much easier if it was all the same.Rec reg is perfect for the weekend warrior that might only use thier bike on weekends and dont use it to commute. You still get full insurance coverage in an accident.
Does NSW have club reg for classic cars and bikes that only have limited use?
I have heard in the past car club people talking about that type of conditional rego. Drovers I think can get it to rego their quads to drive on the road side. Regardless of what anyone sayes about how right it is to do the right thing by the law. This insurance system is a scam. It would be interesting to see the numbers on collected premiums v insurance claim costs. I wonder if it is abused and a totally broken system like workers comp had become. ??? It is in the processs of a overhaul. I still believe single seat rego is the go and choice of at fault cover. That way we could all do the right thing but pay less for doing so. Like stated by others I like full rego because of the freedom it allows on trail rides to transport if required on public roads. On the no sticker thing I think all Australians need access to an app that will allow us to check if any vehicle is registered. Like for instance if you drive a company vehicle or tow a trailer. It would be nice to be able to see if you are legal??? Not just trust the boss. No info need be available just yes or no.
August 4, 2013 at 2:01 am #247516Aaron wrote:I have heard in the past car club people talking about that type of conditional rego. Drovers I think can get it to rego their quads to drive on the road side. Regardless of what anyone sayes about how right it is to do the right thing by the law. This insurance system is a scam. It would be interesting to see the numbers on collected premiums v insurance claim costs.At the end of the day the insurance companies are a business. It is the aim of all businesses to MAKE money. Can’t do much about that.
Aaron wrote:Like stated by others I like full rego because of the freedom it allows on trail rides to transport if required on public roads.Bit of a false statement in NSW. The trails are “public roads” as you call them.
Aaron wrote:On the no sticker thing I think all Australians need access to an app that will allow us to check if any vehicle is registered. Like for instance if you drive a company vehicle or tow a trailer. It would be nice to be able to see if you are legal??? Not just trust the boss. No info need be available just yes or no.NSW RMS does have it… CLICK HERE RMS REGO CHECKER
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