NSW CTP RIP OFF

[alanMember]

Mr Blue wrote:

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There is a massive issue even with the current system, all CTPs for bikes are overpriced in the scheme of legitimate payouts for ROAD accidents, we are actually paying for the dweebs on pitbikes and the likes who hurt themselves at the local oval, this is wrong.

the current federal government hads a paper on increasing the medicare levy 1% to cover all this sort of thing across the board, of course insurance companies don’t like that idea as they would have no legitimate reason to up our premiums without quaestion as is the case now

just a dumb question what has ctp got to do with unrego pit bikes the insurence companys are not going to pay a cent to them if there not insured so what has it got to do with the price of it .would not you be better of paying your cpt than a larger medicare levy unless your like me and have 4 kids and don t pay it

[Daniel BakerMember]

well my klx 450 runs out of rego on the 17th of this month, i think she will be unregoed for a couple of weeks going by this new system. I also bought a 250 road bike about 8 months ago just for the “cheap” rego, looks like a 600 may be entering my garage in the near future, hmmm what to get….

[Bruce CurtisMember]

white rocket wrote:

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Mr Blue wrote:

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There is a massive issue even with the current system, all CTPs for bikes are overpriced in the scheme of legitimate payouts for ROAD accidents, we are actually paying for the dweebs on pitbikes and the likes who hurt themselves at the local oval, this is wrong.

the current federal government hads a paper on increasing the medicare levy 1% to cover all this sort of thing across the board, of course insurance companies don’t like that idea as they would have no legitimate reason to up our premiums without quaestion as is the case now

just a dumb question what has ctp got to do with unrego pit bikes the insurence companys are not going to pay a cent to them if there not insured so what has it got to do with the price of it .would not you be better of paying your cpt than a larger medicare levy unless your like me and have 4 kids and don t pay it

There is a pool of money that part of all our CTP goes into (a large portion actually) that pays for medical and lifetime support for persons injured in recreational motorcycle and Quadbike accidents who are uncovered by anything else. We actually pay for this through our Road registered CTP, and believe me it is a major part of it. This is why the proposal to draw this pool of money out of the Medicare levy is far more appropriate, as most of these people have little to nothing to do with legitimate motorcycling.
So why do we as a base of a mere 160,000 legitimate motorcyclists in NSW pay for this alone?

[Scott SouthwellMember]

Mr Blue wrote:

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white rocket wrote:

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Mr Blue wrote:

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There is a massive issue even with the current system, all CTPs for bikes are overpriced in the scheme of legitimate payouts for ROAD accidents, we are actually paying for the dweebs on pitbikes and the likes who hurt themselves at the local oval, this is wrong.

the current federal government hads a paper on increasing the medicare levy 1% to cover all this sort of thing across the board, of course insurance companies don’t like that idea as they would have no legitimate reason to up our premiums without quaestion as is the case now

just a dumb question what has ctp got to do with unrego pit bikes the insurence companys are not going to pay a cent to them if there not insured so what has it got to do with the price of it .would not you be better of paying your cpt than a larger medicare levy unless your like me and have 4 kids and don t pay it

There is a pool of money that part of all our CTP goes into (a large portion actually) that pays for medical and lifetime support for persons injured in recreational motorcycle and Quadbike accidents who are uncovered by anything else. We actually pay for this through our Road registered CTP, and believe me it is a major part of it. This is why the proposal to draw this pool of money out of the Medicare levy is far more appropriate, as most of these people have little to nothing to do with legitimate motorcycling.
So why do we as a base of a mere 160,000 legitimate motorcyclists in NSW pay for this alone?

Can somebody show me where the statistics are that show it’s pitbike riders who are the ones ending up in hospital injured.

I work in an area where pitbikes are a massive problem, every bogan with a baby bonus has one and ride them around as there main form of transport. I personaly have never been to an incident where a pit bike rider has been injured, and we investigate EVERY accident where somebody has been injured, including pit bikes. If anybody presents at a hospital with an injury from a motorbike, car, truck, buggy, ect we get called whether registered or not, even on private property.

Im sure there are pit bike riders out there getting injured but they would still be the minority.

That being said I can’t count the amount of road bike riders ive seen scraped up of the road.

[Jason GreenMember]

I take that you have seen a lot of horrible shit Scotty when I ride on the road i am always watching what every other idiot on the road is doing :angry: It is a big concern but we can only try to do the right thing and be patient.Trust me Cabramatta is a bad place for driving its a nightmare for parking and my nerves.The things that make me mad are people who drive 10ks under the speed limit and indicate late and P plate rev heads who must race everyone this is why it costs so much to register your bike/car or what ever you are using on the road the only way it can be controlled is by the police and RTA.People need to see more of the stuff they had on 60 minutes the other week about a young girl who lost her legs in a car accident maybe they might think about what can happen.Like on the cigie packs a bit of shock treatment might help.

[Bruce CurtisMember]

I not sure either Scotty, however as you say there are lots of roadies getting hurt or worse, but also a hell of alot (round here anyway) unreg off-road and farm type inciedents as well, my argument is why are just legal road reg paying for the Unreg?

I mean you may well be right but let’s ask the powers that be for some figures, the ones they undoubtedly used to formulate this plan?

[AlexMember]

My 300 is still for sale. Will be on a Kato 200 by the end of the year in that case. Insurance pricks!

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