NSW motorcycle greenslips ripoff

[Bruce CurtisMember]

I looked into it as well Tb and my conclusion is
make rec rego
working headlight tailight
Bike to be inspected each yr
Fully licenced riders only
not a nominal charge but a percentage of full road charge say 50%

these above measures should keep the “craqckheads” away, they won’t bother on their pitties and old Mxers, too much hassle and expense. Only the legit and genuine will bother.

Mrs Cee didn’t raise no fools, think of the ripples and counter ripples always.

But also why discard the idea or the opportunity for genuine users who prefer to use converted MX bikes (like myself) over the softer and homogenised enduro offerings, because of the potential actions of a few losers

[Bruce CurtisMember]

Krusty wrote:

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Mr Blue wrote:

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ATM MCCofNSW is actually making some headway, if we give them some support as part of this headway is Rec Rego, something we should have had access to decades ago.

Will Rec Rego allow me to ride on the road as well as bush? Will Rec Rego allow me to ride in Victoria Queensland or SA?

No but if you don’t want it, just go full rego which is for normal road users

[corey heatherMember]

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Rec Rego will see the faster demise of our sport. It will allow people that cant be arsed jumping through the hoops to meet rego and license requirements get bikes rec rego’ed rather then buy more crack. It easier to rec rego a bike in Vic then rego right. They will then ride anywhere believing in their crack induced state they are able to because of their rec rego. The remaining few ride areas we have will quickly be lost as these people ride around running into another getting hurt and putting more strain on insurances, the legal system and the medical services. Can you imagine the extra bikes out in our remaining legal riding areas. Rec rego will fill our state forests and ride areas with the bikes and they wont be the people that care about our sport, mark my words. There is NO way I would support a rec rego.

Be careful what you wish for Brucee espically where you ride and live.

TB

I second every word TB has said

[GregMember]

Mr Blue wrote:

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I looked into it as well Tb and my conclusion is
make rec rego
working headlight tailight
Bike to be inspected each yr
Fully licenced riders only
not a nominal charge but a percentage of full road charge say 50%

these above measures should keep the “craqckheads” away, they won’t bother on their pitties and old Mxers, too much hassle and expense. Only the legit and genuine will bother.

Mrs Cee didn’t raise no fools, think of the ripples and counter ripples always.

But also why discard the idea or the opportunity for genuine users who prefer to use converted MX bikes (like myself) over the softer and homogenised enduro offerings, because of the potential actions of a few losers

Firstly Bruce I have never thought Mrs Cee raised a fool or do now.

What happens when a rec rego bike is involoved in an accident with say, another bike, a bush walker a 4×4 who pays and how then?? So reco rego only in state forests ok, what happens when they are ridden to death and get closed faster because of over use?

So a buddying up and coming MX rider with can purchase a LED lighting kit for my MX bike around $200. (kit can be used on next years bike as well its a one of cost) Then rec rego $50 (its $50 in Vic I think Menace said) and off me and the mates go, ripping and tearing around and around the tracks we make free practice every day, no track hire no entry fees (good value this rec rego) we can even make our own MX tracks (tell me you haven’t seen tracks made in forests already?) Don’t worry about those farms close by (MX bikes dont have good fuel range so our tracks need to be close to our blinged 22inch hi-aces :laugh: :laugh:

Bingo, areas get over ridden, state forests are getting pissed soil erosion etc and another area gone. They will flock over the border to you Bruce, they already do but it will be 50 times worse because its cheap to setup, cheap to do and its unlimited and they will think the ride areas will be unlimited, and they wont care. Lets not forget the publicity around the extra helicopters for the injured riders and the unrego’ed guys that take there MX bikes out to ride / practice with their mate that have rec rego and tracks to ride. Dont reckon that wont make the papers. An then there will be the people that will sue state forests because of it

Sorry for arguing the point Bruce, I know there will be genuine people that it would work for but its like saying you are a good driver with a good car and can there for travel at 140kph on the freeway if you get what I am saying. The world works around majorities as wrong as it is, this time I think we need majority rego not rec to save us from ourselves. Costs etc of those regos well who really knows what they are when all the emotion is removed from it

Cheers

TB :blink:

[Bruce CurtisMember]

Ok what other forms of Rego would be suitable for the average trailrider?

[ChrisMember]

Correct me if I’m wrong but what I hear TB saying is keep it expensive because only those or at least the majority of those who are serious will pay the money to get rego.. Therefore keeping the rif-raf out.. I certainly don’t want the yahoos who go to Menai to invade say Sunny Corner or Clarence etc..

Rec Rego will make it too cheap and bring forth complete wanker yahoos… More so than what we have now…

Tough one isn’t it…

[Mick DMember]

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Ok what other forms of Rego would be suitable for the average trailrider?

Maybe a rec rego, coupled with an additional permit to ride certain sections of bush like the nat parks permits. No permit required for full rego bikes?? IE $20 to ride Watagans another $20 to ride Sunny Corner. I dunno how it could be policed or worked even.Maybe broken up into local council areas.
Before anyone howls me down, I was just putting it out there as an idea.

[Bruce CurtisMember]

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Mr Blue wrote:

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Ok what other forms of Rego would be suitable for the average trailrider?

Maybe a rec rego, coupled with an additional permit to ride certain sections of bush like the nat parks permits. No permit required for full rego bikes?? IE $20 to ride Watagans another $20 to ride Sunny Corner. I dunno how it could be policed or worked even.Maybe broken up into local council areas.
Before anyone howls me down, I was just putting it out there as an idea.

Yep mick combined with a bike licence and annual inspections on all bikes, would this be a start?

[Mick DMember]

Dunno Bruce, that is why I am not on a polititians paypacket mate.

Just thought I would float the idea. Hard to enforce I would imagine. But if you wanted to ride more than say 5 different council areas per annum it would make full rego look attractive.

[JoeMember]

rebore450 wrote:

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Who was that with?
I can’t get better than $354.00

GIO

[GregMember]

tryhard wrote:

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rebore450 wrote:

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Who was that with?
I can’t get better than $354.00

GIO

Mine is $248 from GIO plus $108 RTA

TB

[Scott SouthwellMember]

The idea of rec rego, land permits, designated areas may sound good in theory but would be a nightmare to enforce. The authorities already struggle to keep unrego bikes out of the bush. I’m not sure how it is managed in Victoria but I bet it is much easier to get away with riding a bike with no rego at all.

[Bruce CurtisMember]

I actually wanted to hear your opinion from the law-enforcers side Scotty, actually said as much to Greg this arvo, anyway surely we could come up with a working model that would be relatively simple to check.
Viccos have Number plates on rec reg, be like any other plate except when you do a search it would come up “limited rec use the following zones”

I also have been thinking that maybe we run the risk of being a bit elitist in our thinking, why couldn’t a bloke on an old IT/PE/Cr etc with the appropriate running gear (full stator kit etc) enjoy our pastime as much as us?
If i took this attitude I’d be venting at all people who only took the sport up within the past 20 yrs, saying “we were here first it’s our sport go away”. Like rec fishing it has grown leaps and bounds and the way I see it the government needs to provide a way to do it within reasonable risk and financial boundaries.

I was told there are more off-road riders in this area than footy or cricket players, and I’d believe it, yet they get government handouts en-masse and facilities abound, even going unused for months coasting the general taxpayer and ratepayers, so why not us as well.
I for one will vote for any pollie regardless of colour or fruit variety that takes this on themselves to push.

To me it’s reasonably simple, what is going on now is uncontrolled and costs money to police, bring them into the fold and it will be self-funding and more control can be exerted.

[Adrian LeeMember]

I have just paid my rego here in vicco today.$420-20 breakdown of charges TAC $348.00 Reg fee $37-40 Insurance duty $34-80. Thats for full reg if i went for the rec reg it would be around $65.00.

[Aaron WildeMember]

Would be nice if just having everone regod would keep us riding in state forests but i think the clock is ticking and soon everybody will be out. TB mentioned the issue that people could sue state forests etal. I think this is the biggest problem bar none. I have a friend who had the best MX SX and everything track on his farm lots of people went there which was great free riding. But the problem came when another paraplegic was created. Now he is suing him and now everybody is out.Legal action stuffs everthing!!! It is even a problem for the farm owner because he now has to ride by himself. Sounds even more dangerous.Sorry guys i think you will look back in 20 years and say i wish it was back how it was in 2010. I think the money we spend should be funneled into maintaining where we ride. If we have to spend more to keep good places open we will just have to cough up. Problem is most of the money would go in admin. Enjoy yor ride while it lasts!

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