Oil for XR600R????

[Mick DMember]

Oil opinions are as many and varied as the amount of brands and types available, but I will throw this out there for discussion anyhow.
Ever since I have owned my XR I have always run Silkolene Pro 4 full synthetic oil. I have run it because I was under the impression by running a top quality oil I was doing the right thing by the Old girl.
I change the Oil every 1000km and at $65(at cost from distibutor) for 4 liters, it costs me $30 each change plus the cost of the filter.
My question is, do the RFVC engines really need such a high quality synthetic oil or would the engine benefit from a semi synthetic or even a mineral oil instead?
Am I even doing the right thing by running the synthetic or am I wasting my money and shortening the engine life???
Your opinions are appreciated.

[DavidMember]

I know what will fix it ……None ……HA HA HA

[DeanMember]

Quote[I change the Oil every 1000km and at $65(at cost from distibutor) for 4 liters, it costs me $30 each change plus the cost of the filter.
My question is, do the RFVC engines really need such a high quality synthetic oil or would the engine benefit from a semi synthetic or even a mineral oil instead?Quote

Mick oils now a days a very good even the basic mineral oils,I have been advised by experts (shell technical guru) that they recommend a product called shell Rotella for my Yamaha because of the Rekluse clutch,it is a new product designed for two stroke diesels:woohoo:
but from all reports it makes a big difference,yet to try it but will soon.PS oil filters shouldnt be a concern now that you have a flash stainless steel re-usable job from me.

ollie

[Mick DMember]

OH yeah speaking of the oil filters, how will I get some payment to you, ol mate?

[DeanMember]

I will pm you my acct details,no rush mate,Have you fitted it yet?

ollieB)

[Mick DMember]

One more ride before I fit it. I gave the other one to Moose last night for doing the backup vehicle thing when you guys were up here and he was stoked.

[DeanMember]

Awsome stuff mate,Moose is a real character eh! Next time im up we will have to have a beer at the local.
PS my missus has been onto me to take the boy out riding let us know when you guys are taking the “young Bulls” out again and I will try and get up, a bit of father son bonding.

ollie

[GregMember]

Ollie

Chris, Chopper and Myself are doing the family ride thing at Louee for three days in Oct if your interested even for a day or two. We are doing the full family thing, all kids wifes etc

TB

[DeanMember]

yeh mate sounds good,the wife is not really into roughing it though,I will have to get some cheap theater tickets to billy elliot or something for her and the daughter:laugh:

ollie

[DeanMember]

hey Mick getting back to the subject of oil,1000 k’s seems a bit of a stretch,how is the oil condition at those k’s,I let my oil go a bit long on that last ride (18 hours) and it may have been what caused the clutch to s@#%t itself,I will now change it every 10 hours just to be sure.

ollie

[GregMember]

Ollie

If you change your oil every 10hrs, on the three state ride that could be one day!
Have to get a Honda for that ride mate

[DeanMember]

yeah TB I hear you,but say a normal ride will probably put about 4 hours on the meter,so three rides should cover it,btw I have now also fitted magnetic sump plugs as well just to help that bit more.The WR is probably a more highly stressed engine than the XR and the XR can get away with it (ie the Yam has 5 titanium valves shorter stroke,shim adjustment and revs to the beegeezus)the XR is the ol reliable tractor that plonks along all day.On a big ride like the three state ride where the revs would pretty much be constant and less clutch slipping involved I think I would be comfortable in an oil change possibly say every three days.But the WRF probably is not the right horse for the course in that situation, im thinking XR650,DR650,klx650,TTR Belgarda and KTM 640

Thoughts

ollie

[Anonymous]

Ollie,

Are the diesels on the ships two strokes?

Maybe the Navy should buy a drum of this Shell Rotella for evaluation on their big boats

[Rossco MckinnonMember]

Hello Mick

I purpose to do a trial of oil. Where I work i do Calibration of gauges, Valves, Pneumatics and hydraulic systems and shit loads of other stuff BUT I ALSO DO OIL MONITORING AND TESTING. It is very expensive to get done but as usual we can get past that.:laugh: If we set this up right i intend to get volnteers to send me oil samples (will send out sample bottles) at certain K’s to see how well the oil is going EG mineral oil after 3 rides in the closet possible conditions, then SEMI, then Full SYN then post the reports on the site.
I have often thought the same as I rin Motul full synthetic and you know how much it costs:( and i do neally every 3 rides (about 130ks a ride on average so around 400 500 kms oil out/oil in. But if results prove you dont have to WELL??????

MadMacs
Any ideas

[BrettMember]

Chamging your oil is the the cheapest maintenance you can do I change mine about every 500km and I use Motul 5100 ester 10/50 for my old XR600 with approx 30 000km on the clock, and sorry Ollie but I think a reuseable filter is just begging for contamination problems if you don’t do it properly, compared to ” pull old filter out and throw over shoulder and put new clean filter in”. Thats just my thoughts.

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