Recreational rego in NSW

[Bruce CurtisMember]

add the rego & violia, not much change from $500, and a heck of a lot different from $200

[scott bockingMember]

But it allows you to ride Blue. What price can you put on that?

[Bruce CurtisMember]

So does Solo rego in Qld, that’s my point, and why did it double overnight, I haven’t crashed my bike in the bush and made any claims and I don’t know anyone who has

[GregMember]

So rego it in Qld problem fixed its cheaper and will be cheaper than rec rego in NSW that will never happen

Bruce we agreed earlier today NSW’s system requires a CTP green slip for no matter what system we use it has to because NSW runs a different motor vehicle accident claim system. REC REGO WILL REQUIRE A GREEN SLIP FACT

REC REGO WILL REQUIRE A GREEN SLIP FACT

No other state requires a green slip that’s why its more expensive in NSW, REC REGO WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE THEN VIC BECAUSE THE MOTOR VEHCILE ACCIDENT INSURANCE MEDICAL CLAIMS SYSTEM IS DIFFERENT AS IS QLD’s.

TB

[Old MateMember]

G’day. True- maybe none/some/all unregistered blokes will not bother with rec rego. But as I said my mates on Mx’s would be up for it.
It would be nice to know that if you were unfortunate enough to have a head-on/crash with an formerly unregistered rider at least they would now be insured.
As for the issue of riding on the road- full rego will still be available.
Rec rego is not for everyone but at least I believe it is a step in the right direction.
I also have to agree that sometimes an enduro bike is an advantage- especially if it is a whole day or multi day ride. However I tend to do shorter singletrack blasts of 3-4 hours these days in which I would rather a mx style bike. Their suspension these days isnt always rock hard (alot of tuning possible with clickers) and they are not noisy (road with a 2010 CRF450 the other day and it was one of the quietest bikes of the group).
Regards
Old Mate

[Scott SouthwellMember]

I still don’t believe this will make the guys who are already riding unregistered bike go out and get rec rego. The fact is 99% of the unregistered bike I have ever picked up also have an unlicenced rider.

[Mick DMember]

Unlicenced is another whole different kettle of fish. Many riders around here, I am sure have put getting a licence in the too hard basket. As they now have to do a course over one or two weekends and the closest option for the local riders here is at Taree. Gone are the days where you could just rock into the RTA and do a test and walk out with your ‘L”s.
Another revenue generator for the NSW Govt.

[Aaron WildeMember]

Mr Blue wrote:

Quote:

add the rego & violia, not much change from $500, and a heck of a lot different from $200

Do they do anything to your bike to signify that it has single seat rego. I thought they used to put a note on your compliance plate back in the 90’s. To me I think this is where the key is to making it cheaper. STM talks about his situation being perfect with the full rego. After riding there I saw that that was spot on. If we only rode locally and did not go away on these rides rec rego would work fine. Every time I go riding something happens to the Indicators or something else :angry:. Would be nice not to have to worry about that but…. I will still go the full rego thing even though I hardly ride it on the road. From what TB said about the green slip it will be stuff all cheaper, so will probably fail. I would not go to the trouble to rec rego my YZ even if it would cost?300. Cant imagine the great unwashed going to the trouble if I wouldn’t.

[Bruce CurtisMember]

Ok I have done some official work yesterday afernoon and this morning on this and related subjects.

firstly-Qld solo seat, there is two routes to this as far as I am aware it is designated a solo ex-factory or you have it certified.

There are a couple of insurers who are willing to go outside of the current CTP “box” as it were if this gets approved.

This should negate the “greenslips are greenslips” issue.

I reckon only good will come of this, yes it will not solve world hunger or force peace in the middle east, but it should get quite a few more out of the illegal heap, into the insured & legal column

[Ron BirrellMember]

I think the area that needs looking at is the CTP/Greenslip,as this covers
any claims made by anyone injured in an accident other than the driver/rider
deemed at fault.
Correct me if i’m wrong, but 99% of dirt bikes don’t have the provisions for pillions
and there fore injuries to anyone but the rider in an accident are virtually non existant,
thus no claims. Maybe a no claim bonus system would make it cheaper and fairer as with full comp insurance
I’m with QBE and as Mickmeld said my CTP is $319-00 and my rego is $106-00.
Because NSW de-regulated CTP this just made it an insurers market in my opinion.
Where as in QLD I believe, the govt. still sets the price as it’s paid in with the rego
to the DMV

Just my opinion

Buzz

[Aaron WildeMember]

Buzz wrote:

Quote:

I think the area that needs looking at is the CTP/Greenslip,as this covers
any claims made by anyone injured in an accident other than the driver/rider
deemed at fault.
Correct me if i’m wrong, but 99% of dirt bikes don’t have the provisions for pillions
and there fore injuries to anyone but the rider in an accident are virtually non existant,
thus no claims. Maybe a no claim bonus system would make it cheaper and fairer as with full comp insurance
I’m with QBE and as Mickmeld said my CTP is $319-00 and my rego is $106-00.
Because NSW de-regulated CTP this just made it an insurers market in my opinion.
Where as in QLD I believe, the govt. still sets the price as it’s paid in with the rego
to the DMV

Just my opinion

Buzz

I didn’t know about the at fault bit. So If I get injured on my bike from a vehicle doing the wrong thing(That would never happen :laugh:)That means that the third party would be me???

[Scott SouthwellMember]

Does anyone else see rec rego has the potential to give our sport an even worse reputation than it already has with the general public. I think most would agree I is the majority those that ride in places that ennoy suburban residents that causes that good majority of issues.
I doubt most people give a rats arse about unregistered, noisy bike out in the middle of the bush that are out of sight and out of hearing, heck most wouldn’t even know we are there. I for one don’t really have an issue with unregistered bikes out deep in the bush. The only real issue here is insurance.

From a law enforcement perspective I work in a suburban area that has a lot of large parklands and tracks of bush. More than most realise until you get out into it. All this land borders or runs through suburbia. We have multiple trail bike complaints every day of the week. Weekend it almost gets out of control. 95% unregistered bikes.

The good thing with the way it is at the moment when we get hold of these f#&ckwits they get a good fist full of fines. It’s easy to throw a couple grand worth of tickets at them. Sometimes the fines are worth more than there bikes.

Give them rec rego and you will legitimise their existence. At most they may get a fine for riding in a reserve contrary to some useless local government rule. Couple hundred dollars tops, wont deter most. With there new rec rego most will believe it will be ok for them to ride suburban street to get to these reserves, pissing off yet more members of the community. And no doubt now they have rec rego if we catch them doing this they will not actually be considered unregistered but only riding their bike outside their rego conditions. This will be another piss poor fine and not much of a deterrent.

Couple with that the new laws are likely to be confusing for cops and riders alike as to where they can and can’t ride making it even harder to enforce. I know a lot of cops will just put it in the too hard basket. As I said in most of these riders minds they will believe rec rego give them the right to ride anywhere anytime will the potential to do more harm to our sport and take more power away from authorities to stop them.

[Dwayne OMember]

Yeah Scotty,
I hear ya “LOUD & CLEAR” mate
Damn idiots made my life hell (as usual, it only takes a few to stuff it up for all the rest)

And YES,,,,, I am in the Turps this arvo on an empty stomach & feeling great :woohoo:

[RoyMember]

It’s a funny scenario. We need more bike riders so bike riders rights are respected (ie we represent a decent number of votes) but the more riders we have the more complaints there will be. I can’t see rider numbers increasing to the point when we are not a monority group. It is hard to find a win-win scenario here.

[Dwayne OMember]

That is true Roy,,,

So it seems that the debate will rage on & on as it has already for a long time :blink:
I have found by experience over the years that “Idiots will always be IDIOTS” unfortunately

[Author]

Posts