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  • #95510

    Nick Again
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    Oi. anyone out there using one of these things? If yes, whats the goods on them? Seems i cant get for my 610, but maybe can savage on from a 510?

    #114386

    Dean
    Member

    Gyday Husky, I had one fitted to my WR450.When it was running properly It would have been one of the best mods you could do,especially if the conditions were real slick,or the hills real steep. mine was one of the earlier versions and was a bit of mucking around,the newer Pro versions are the ducks nuts and worth the extra coin without a doubt.
    Would I buy another one? yes if the dollar improves :dry:

    there is another good report done by Slug elsewhere on this forum,check it out.

    Ollie

    #114401

    Anonymous

    Most people that have them seem to rave about them. Most people that don’t have them don’t even want to entertain the idea of a ladies gearbox on their dirtbike. Just my experience.

    Maybe if I had one I might be able to ride my bike instead of crashing it? Doing gears and brakes is obviously too much for me…..

    #114403

    Greg
    Member

    Yeah I agree Moto, I havent seen one in action and I reckon I get about a bit, there was only one member on this site that used one actively (sorry slug) being Ollie, but it failed twice, because of the clutch plates he said. Ollie and the people that use them rave about them, the theory is sound it should be a good thing it must be, but again you just dont see them around as much as you think you would for such a good thing. I am itching to try one.

    Can you get one for the smoker Ollie? Whats the difference between the old one and the new pro?

    TB

    #114406

    Dean
    Member

    Trailboss wrote:

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    Can you get one for the smoker Ollie? Whats the difference between the old one and the new pro?

    TB

    Yes they are available for most bikes including 2 strokes, I reckon one on your 6fitty would be awsome,it would make you a lot quicker in the tight shit and you wouldnt have to worry about stalling your bike,especially handy if you only have a kick starter. The Pro series is a better unit because the internal hub is replaced by a rekluse item and the manufacturing tolerances are a lot tighter,you would be surprised at the variances of the oem gear. I think rekluse now only make the Pro series.

    Ollie

    #114411

    Greg
    Member

    Ollie wrote:

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    Trailboss wrote:

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    Can you get one for the smoker Ollie? Whats the difference between the old one and the new pro?

    TB

    Yes they are available for most bikes including 2 strokes, I reckon one on your 6fitty would be awsome,it would make you a lot quicker in the tight shit and you wouldnt have to worry about stalling your bike,especially handy if you only have a kick starter. The Pro series is a better unit because the internal hub is replaced by a rekluse item and the manufacturing tolerances are a lot tighter,you would be surprised at the variances of the oem gear. I think rekluse now only make the Pro series.

    Ollie

    Quicker in the tight stuff? I dont know about that, I think just being able to turn a big bike is the hold up I face as far a tight going is concerned, I dont hold many people up in the tight stuff even on that big bike, fitness would improve my speed over long distances more than a fancy clutch lol

    TB

    #114412

    Anonymous

    When the top boys start using them I will. I’d just rather be old school and do it myself. My attitude is that if Grabbo doesn’t need one then neither do I. Sure I’m nowhere near as good as them, but I take satisfaction out of trying to be as good as I can be using (almost) the same gear as the big boys.

    If I can’t peddle a 450 through the tight stuff, then I will have to get fitter/better, not buy a YZ125 :)

    #114416

    Dean
    Member

    Moto wrote:

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    When the top boys start using them I will. I’d just rather be old school and do it myself. My attitude is that if Grabbo doesn’t need one then neither do I. Sure I’m nowhere near as good as them, but I take satisfaction out of trying to be as good as I can be using (almost) the same gear as the big boys.

    If I can’t peddle a 450 through the tight stuff, then I will have to get fitter/better, not buy a YZ125 :)

    Moto you would be surprised at who is actually using them,Grabbo uses them in the sprints and enduro’s, ballard uses one plus others that I wont mention,have a talk to Sutto he will give you the goss, The Rekluse makes it easier to ride as it provides the exact amount of clutch slippage to get through the crap, you will have to try it for yourself to find out how it goes,maybe I should become an agent for rekluse:dry:

    ollie

    #114419

    Greg
    Member

    Funny that know one mentions that the slippage that everyone talks about, generates heat and also increases wear rates on the clutch plates, oil needs to be changed more often Sutto told me that. If I was racing for a championship ok and had an unlimited budget ok. But as I said before if they are so good why are there so few around? There are 264 members on this site, all are not active, but only two rekluse clutch users, not good odds for such a good modification or then is it?

    #114423

    Dean
    Member

    yeh mate I dont know,Sutto says he sells about 400 units a year! maybe the cost has got something to do with it/, its a lot of beer and petrol coupons,maybe its just a sheep mentality,I dont know,best bet is to find someone who has it fitted and give it a try, this is a fact though; anyone who has troubles climbing snotty hills will find the rekluse the perfect answer to their dilemma.

    Ollie

    #114424

    Anonymous

    Climbing snotty hills is fine. It’s cruising sown a fire trail I can’t do! :p

    You are right though Ollie, I should reserve judgement until I have had a proper go. My 5 minute stint on a KTM 300 with one isn’t really what I’d call a product test.

    #114425

    What do they actually do?:unsure:

    #114426

    Dean
    Member

    Mickust wrote:

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    What do they actually do?:unsure:

    short answer: They make you look like a better rider than you really are:laugh:

    ollie

    #114429

    Mate I better get one yesterday:laugh:

    #114430

    Anonymous

    What is it?

    The z-Start Pro Clutch is a retrofit automatic clutch for off-road motorcycles and ATVs. It works using centrifugal force to automatically and smoothly engage the clutch just by using the throttle. The z-Start Pro manages the clutch function so the rider can focus on riding and having more fun.
    The z-Start Pro is based on the same technology as Rekluse’s industry leading, patented z-Start Clutch and provides all the same riding benefits plus some additional unique benefits. The z-Start Pro provides stock-like clutch lever feel, improved override at all RPMs, simpler installation and reduced maintenance. For more information on the differences between the z-Start and z-Start Pro refer to section above, “Why Go Pro.”

    What is included with the z-Start Pro Clutch?
    There are two main portions of the z-Start Pro: a billet aluminum center clutch and the clutch assembly. The billet aluminum center clutch replaces the stock center clutch. The clutch assembly consists of the lower assembly, pressure plate and top plate. The lower assembly simply snaps into the Rekluse center clutch. The ball-ramp pressure plate with balls and a top plate then mount to the lower assembly. The z-Start Pro also includes custom steel drive plates to interface to the center clutch but utilizes standard OEM friction plates (Friction plates are not included in the kit). Some models may include a slightly thicker gasket to provide some additional clearance for the z-Start Pro. Everything except basic tools is provided in the kit to complete the installation.

    What is the z-Start Pro made from?
    The z-Start Pro Clutch is made from the highest quality billet 6061-T6 aluminum and billet 4140 steel, precision CNC-machined to tolerances of .001″ (that’s one one-thousandth of an inch). The center clutch and pressure plate are hard anodized for additional durability. The top plate sent through a final nitrating process to increase the surface that the 7/16” steel balls will run against.

    How does it work?

    The z-Start Pro Clutch is a centrifugal clutch that uses ball bearings to engage the clutch. The clutch provides a pressure plate with ball ramps. At idle the balls are at the bottom of the ramps and the pressure plate is disengaged. As the rider increases RPM, the balls move out the ramps, push on the Rekluse top plate and force the pressure plate into the clutch pack engaging the clutch. As RPMs build, the balls continue to move out fully engaging the clutch. When engine RPM’s are reduced the balls drop back down the ramps and the clutch disengages. The take-off is smooth as if you had perfectly feathered the clutch every time. The disengagement is quick, eliminating stalls.

    At what RPM does the z-Start Pro Clutch engage?

    The z-Start Pro is fully adjustable so the rider can set the engagement RPM. Springs are used to provide back pressure to the clutch and disengage it at idle. It takes a certain amount of force to overcome the springs and engage the clutch. By changing springs and spring compression rates, the rider can easily set the engagement RPM. Three sets of springs are provided such that a low, medium, and high engagement RPM can be set.

    Additionally, the engagement rate of the z-Start Pro can be adjusted. The engagement rate is how quickly the clutch fully clamps the clutch pack. The z-Start Pro has two engagement rate settings – hard and soft. Use all 27 7/16” steel balls for a hard engagement, remove 3 balls and use only 24 for a soft engagement. The 7/16 ball bearings are larger than those used in the z-Start so hard engagement can be achieved without having to add any tungsten carbide balls.

    Does the z-Start Pro require me to modify my existing clutch parts?
    No. The z-Start Pro simply replaces your stock center clutch and pressure plate. No need to take apart the right side of your engine to get the whole clutch out. No need to send your parts away for permanent modification or to modify your existing clutch parts. With the Rekluse z-Start Pro, you can always return any bike to a stock configuration.

    Can the clutch lever still be used?

    The z-Start Pro is provided in a semi-automatic mode. A special spring and washer hold the stock throw-out to keep the lever taut when the bike is off or at idle. A unique benefit of the z-Start Pro is that it maintains a stock clutch lever feel and can be fully overridden at any RPM.

    Does the z-Start Pro need a Rekluse Perch Adjuster?

    No, the Rekluse Perch Adjuster is not recommended with the z-Start Pro. The z-Start Pro is set so that it utilizes the stock lever and cable such that the clutch override is very close to stock clutch lever feel.

    How difficult is the z-Start Pro to install?

    Riders who regularly perform maintenance on their clutch components can easily install a z-Start Pro Clutch. Most people will spend 30 to 45 minutes to read through the manual completely and carefully install the z-Start Pro. After the first installation, subsequent installations can be completed in 15 to 20 minutes.

    Why does the z-Start Pro include a new center clutch?

    The Rekluse Center Clutch is one of the key design elements of the z-Start Pro. The Rekluse Center Clutch provides significant benefits over the stock cast aluminum center clutch:

    Fast and simple mounting of the z-Start Pro lower assembly by simply snapping it in with a snap ring – no more mounting shims
    Improved drive plate design utilizes a new drive plate tooth profile to reduce wear on the center clutch
    A replaceable, steel drive plate at bottom of the clutch pack reduces friction disk wear on the center clutch
    Precision CNC-machined from solid 6061 T-6 aluminum bar with a hard-anodized coating
    Reduced “run-out” and improved “parallelism” means smoother engagement of clutch components
    Hard anodization significantly improves component life and reduces oil contamination

    Will the z-Start Pro wear my clutch plates faster?

    That depends on how you use or abuse the z-Start Pro Clutch. With the z-Start Pro, you will find that you are able to ride smoothly in one or even two gears higher than you normally ride. However, riding uphill, in 4th gear at 10mph for any extended period of time will cause significant clutch slipping, accelerate clutch plate wear and possibly damage your engine. When riding with any automatic clutch, it is important to select the right gear for the situation. In general, it is safe to ride one gear higher than the riding conditions dictate for short periods of time. That being said, when used properly the z-Start Pro should allow for clutch plate life equal to or better than a stock clutch.

    What kind of maintenance does the z-Start Pro require?

    The z-Start Pro Clutch is designed to work with a specific ‘installed gap”. The installed gap is the distance between the pressure plate and clutch pack when the bike is off. The installed gap is based on the distance that the balls rise in the ball ramps as the pressure plate is engaged. If the installed gap is too small, the pressure plate is too close and will cause the bike to drag at idle. If the installed gap is too large, the pressure plate cannot fully clamp the clutch pack and the clutch will slip excessively.

    In order for proper operation and to maintain the life of the clutch pack, the installed gap must be kept in the prescribed range. Initially, the installed gap must be checked after breaking in the z-Start Pro Clutch for twenty minutes. As clutch wear occurs, the installed gap needs to be checked at regular intervals. Rekluse recommends riders check the installed gap after every 30 to 50 hours of riding.

    How much weight does the z-Start Pro Clutch add to my bike?

    Installing the z-Start Pro Clutch adds less than 15 ounces of rotating mass in the clutch. Keep in mind that the clutch spins at approximately 1/3 engine speed so flywheel effect of the z-Start Pro is minimal.

    What if I have problems?

    What kind of warranty does the z-Start Pro come with?
    The z-Start Pro Clutch is backed by a 1-year warranty from defects in material or workmanship on all Rekluse-manufactured parts. The z-Start Pro Clutch also includes a 30-day money back guarantee. If for any reason you are unhappy with how the z-Start Pro Clutch performs in the first 30 days of use, simply contact Rekluse or our dealer for a return authorization and we will gladly refund your purchase.

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