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February 10, 2009 at 11:18 pm #105826
With all of this debate On oils going on I thought it may be a good time to reinvigorate these stainless steel Oilfilters. Numbers are limited due to the Aussie dollar being crap so get in while you canB)
Ollie wrote:
Quote:BumpGyday Guys I have a heap of these stainless steel oil filters for sale, they are excellant quality very cheap and on special to old Bulls. I have filters to fit Honda,Kawasaki and Yamaha. I will sell for $55 including postage You wont find a cheaper stainless steel filter anywhere else in Oz.
cheers ollie
photo is of a CRF oil Filter
PM me or leave details in this thread email is deanfuller65@optusnet.com.au
February 12, 2009 at 8:03 am #121908
AnonymousOllie,
Do you do filters for a 08 WR250R and 06 TTR250?DanD
February 12, 2009 at 8:07 am #122087DanD wrote:
Quote:Ollie,
Do you do filters for a 08 WR250R and 06 TTR250?DanD
yep sure do DanB)
Ollie
February 12, 2009 at 8:20 am #106163Do you have a special cleaning tool Ollie? I have used mine once and although there is nothing really in it I am not happy with how hard it is to clean, given that you cant get air to the whole inside area, no point blowing it outside in as all the containments will then be in the filter.
Couple of weeks ago an apprentice from work had one from his bike that had a clutch on the way out and we wouldn’t get it clean as well, if you look at the diagram you cant blow out the area in red so that remains blocked restricting oil flow unless you blow it in which is no good?[img size=640]http://www.obtrailriders.com/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/dscf08487951.JPG[/img]
Worried TB
February 12, 2009 at 8:31 am #122090Trailboss wrote:
Quote:Do you have a special cleaning tool Ollie? I have used mine once and although there is nothing really in it I am not happy with how hard it is to clean, given that you cant get air to the whole inside area, no point blowing it outside in as all the containments will then be in the filter.
Couple of weeks ago an apprentice from work had one from his bike that had a clutch on the way out and we wouldn’t get it clean as well, if you look at the diagram you cant blow out the area in red so that remains blocked restricting oil flow unless you blow it in which is no good?[img size=640]http://www.obtrailriders.com/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/dscf08487951.JPG[/img]
Worried TB
If you just rinse it in Petrol or if your real worried about it which I wouldnt be use brake cleaner with the flexible nozzle should be no drama’s
everyone who got one of these reckons they are the ducks guts especially given the low cost for the high build quality.
Sorry Moto cant get the Kato ones way to costly:unsure:
February 12, 2009 at 8:37 am #122091
AnonymousTB you could just get a cheap air gun from Supacheap and bend the end around to fit into the hard to reach areas of the filter if Ollie hasnt got a special tool.
February 12, 2009 at 8:38 am #122093Maybe you have misunderstood me:blush: , I never questioned the quality of the manufacturing to do with the filter, brake cleaner with a nozzle cant bend around sharp enough without kinking the plastic nozzle and restricting the flow and pressure of the brake cleaner aerosol can thus becoming useless, been there tried that. And how could you not be worried about contaminants staying in there and restricting the flow when flow is one of you selling points? I will bring mine to Wauchope if I remember and you can give me a demo and put my mind at ease.
I agree they are quality and look bling even!
Thanks TB
February 12, 2009 at 8:38 am #122088
AnonymousOllie wrote:
Quote:DanD wrote:Quote:Ollie,
Do you do filters for a 08 WR250R and 06 TTR250?DanD
yep sure do DanB)
Ollie
How many $
February 12, 2009 at 8:40 am #122094DanD wrote:
Quote:TB you could just get a cheap air gun from Supacheap and bend the end around to fit into the hard to reach areas of the filter if Ollie hasnt got a special tool.We bent one at work, it snaps, has to do a sharp L to get in the top.
February 12, 2009 at 8:44 am #122095if you put a straight bit of plastic tube over the nozzle of your air gun block off the end of the tube,then put a small slit in the tube,this will allow the pressurised air to exit at 90 degrees to the tube, That would workB)
ollie
February 12, 2009 at 10:00 am #105827
AnonymousAs convenient as this style of filter is to use for bike maintenance, the only 100% effective method to clean them is by using solvent in an ultrasonic cleaning bath.
The uncertainty of cleaning a s/s mesh filter, is why people tend you stay with paper filters, as they know that a new paper filter is 100% clean when installed.
From my understanding of the concerns of using s/s filters is twofold. 1)cleaning them of particles to allow full oil flow. 2) size of particles it can trap compared to paper. ie absolute micron size
As most(all) of us on this site use performance bikes, I assume we do regular oil changes, either based on number of hours used, or by km’s ridden between changes. I think that regular oil changes and with meticulous cleaning of the air filter, I can’t imagine that you will ever suffer from a catastrophic engine failure due to the oil becoming contaminated with particles. One thing you should consider doing is installing a magnetic sump plug, if you bike doesn’t already have one. This is the old “belt and braces” approach to ensure that any nasty bits are kept away from fast moving engine parts.
Another argument I have seen for s/s over paper filters is economy of costs. To do the ecomonics properly, you have to take into account any solvents or tools you may need to clean an s/s filter, plus if you put a value on your own time, how long does it take you to clean it properly. As you are aware, you can buy paper filters in bulk which dramatically reduces the cost of this option.
My experience with paper filters has been trouble free in the limited amount of riding I had done on my wr450F. I use semi-synthetic Castrol GPS and change it every 300km of riding, or if the bike have been sitting idle for say six months. This may be over the top, but the oil is cheap and comes out as clean as honey each time, without a hint of metal. I change the filter on every second oil change, regardless of whether it “looks” clean or dirty. The only time I have had any bits on the magnetic sump plug was just after I installed the Rekluse clutch. There was a small amount of fine “sludge” which I attribute to the new plates of the clutch bedding in. After that it has been clean.
Having typed all this, I purchased an s/s oil filter to try out, but due to a lack of riding over the past couple of years, I have yet to had to clean it out. I think over time, as you will never clean the s/s filter 100%, there will be an accummulation of particles lodged in places you can’t get to, effectively reducing the oil flow slightly.
It all comes down to your own choice, and confidence in the product. Even though I have purchased an s/s filter, if I find over time that I don’t feel I am getting it clean enough to be confident, or I find the oil is dirtier that from using paper filters, I will have no hesitation to go back to paper filters.
all the best,
Slug
February 12, 2009 at 10:14 pm #122133
AnonymousI’m with TB and the slug. I think they are a good little unit, but over a period of time they have to not work as well as when they were first installed.
February 12, 2009 at 10:32 pm #122097
AnonymousOllie wrote:
Quote:if you put a straight bit of plastic tube over the nozzle of your air gun block off the end of the tube,then put a small slit in the tube,this will allow the pressurised air to exit at 90 degrees to the tube, That would workB)ollie
Without being able to see the size of the hole of the filter, would it be possible to also use a more maleable metal tube such a copper or maybe brakeline (bundy tube)to achieve a small radius bend, allowing access to the upper areas of the filter?
I don’t have an ultrasonic cleaning bath, but I may develop a rock n roll bath. This would involve putting the filter in a container of solvent and placing the container adjacent to my stereo speakers. I would turn up the volume control to “11” and play really loud rock n roll music. The music (Spinal Tap etc) would setup sound wave pulses into the filter and solvent, hence shaking the shit out of the particle and forcing them to fall out of the mesh.
February 12, 2009 at 10:34 pm #122218
Anonymousslug wrote:
Quote:Ollie wrote:Quote:if you put a straight bit of plastic tube over the nozzle of your air gun block off the end of the tube,then put a small slit in the tube,this will allow the pressurised air to exit at 90 degrees to the tube, That would workB)ollie
Without being able to see the size of the hole of the filter, would it be possible to also use a more maleable metal tube such a copper or maybe brakeline (bundy tube)to achieve a small radius bend, allowing access to the upper areas of the filter?
I don’t have an ultrasonic cleaning bath, but I may develop a rock n roll bath. This would involve putting the filter in a container of solvent and placing the container adjacent to my stereo speakers. I would turn up the volume control to “11” and play really loud rock n roll music. The music would setup sound wave pulses into the filter and solvent, hence shaking the shit out of the particle and forcing them to fall out of the mesh.
Sounds great, but in re-enforces that a paper filter is much easier to deal with!
February 12, 2009 at 11:03 pm #122096DanD wrote:
Quote:Ollie wrote:Quote:DanD wrote:Quote:Ollie,
Do you do filters for a 08 WR250R and 06 TTR250?DanD
yep sure do DanB)
Ollie
How many $
Gyday Dan due to our crap dollar I have had to increase the price:angry: They are now $55 each but if you are interested in getting two take the postage cost of one off,round it off to $105 and if you promise to donate $5 to the victorian fire appeals make it an even $100 including postage cant get much fairer than thatB) PM me your details if you are interested.
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