Steering dampner setting??

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  • #178747

    Craig Hatton
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    ECKS-Man wrote:

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    No idea on dampers, I’ve not used one. But is it “dampner” or “damper”? Always thought it was meant to be “damper”…

    Google seems to think I am right, but that’s nothing to write home about! (Dear Mum, today I found out…)

    I thought dampener – because you are dampening something not damping something ??

    hatto

    #178749

    Eric Smith
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    Wiki:
    A steering damper, steering stabiliser or sprint damper is a damping device designed to inhibit an undesirable, uncontrolled movement or oscillation of a vehicle steering mechanism (a phenomenon known in the motorcycling community as ‘wobble’, or in extreme cases, a ‘tank-slapper’). Modern motorbikes are unlikely to exhibit this behaviour in daily use thanks in part to better dampers and due to their very stiff front ends and other general improvements in design and tyre technology.

    Not that wiki is always right by any means, but no mention of the word “dampener” there at all. :)

    #178750

    Greg
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    I will give it to you ECKS you are all over the big topics :laugh:

    TB

    #178752

    Eric Smith
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    Trailboss wrote:

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    I will give it to you ECKS you are all over the big topics :laugh:

    TB

    Yeah, sorry for the thread hijack lads! Gotta have a bit of fun now and again eh! :laugh:

    (For those not in the know, this is an old argument that never fails to bring out a biter…)

    Don’t worry, I’ll start a thread about chain lube next!! :P

    Can’t believe not one bite to my head-stem bearing comment though… you lot are slipping! B)

    #178753

    Bruce Curtis
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    ECKS-Man wrote:

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    (For those not in the know, this is an old argument that never fails to bring out a biter…)

    Can’t believe not one bite to my head-stem bearing comment though… you lot are slipping! B)

    CHOMP

    Dampening as you are probably aware of I actually got NP on this one…Survey the results for “dampen” and you will see it sits inside the boundaries of that which you speak.

    an example that you can locate without a GPS

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dampener

    #178751

    Craig Hatton
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    ECKS-Man wrote:

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    Wiki:
    A steering damper, steering stabiliser or sprint damper is a damping device designed to inhibit an undesirable, uncontrolled movement or oscillation of a vehicle steering mechanism (a phenomenon known in the motorcycling community as ‘wobble’, or in extreme cases, a ‘tank-slapper’). Modern motorbikes are unlikely to exhibit this behaviour in daily use thanks in part to better dampers and due to their very stiff front ends and other general improvements in design and tyre technology.

    Not that wiki is always right by any means, but no mention of the word “dampener” there at all. :)

    My Take is
    Dampner = no such word

    Damper = made with flour, and you eat it

    So it has to be Dampener

    Thats my story and I’m sticking to it :laugh: :laugh: ;)

    Hatto

    #178754

    Greg
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    ECKS-Man wrote:

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    Can’t believe not one bite to my head-stem bearing comment though… you lot are slipping! B)

    ECKS after your forks saga and your reaction there I wasnt game to say boo :blush: :laugh: :laugh: :kiss:

    I will say speak with the maintenance mayor of Wauchope about steering head bearings :laugh: Moose and I saw his inbuilt lack of maintenance damper on his son’s 85 last time I was up there :laugh: :laugh: I was flat out turning the handle bars :P

    TB

    #178755

    Mick D
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    Trailboss wrote:

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    ECKS-Man wrote:

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    Can’t believe not one bite to my head-stem bearing comment though… you lot are slipping! B)

    ECKS after your forks saga and your reaction there I wasnt game to say boo :blush: :laugh: :laugh: :kiss:

    I will say speak with the maintenance mayor of Wauchope about steering head bearings :laugh: Moose and I saw his inbuilt lack of maintenance damper on his son’s 85 last time I was up there :laugh: :laugh: I was flat out turning the handle bars :P

    TB

    Yep let your son wash his bike with a pressure washer enough times and the head stem will fill with water and in no time the bearings will sieze up and whollah!! Instant home made steering dampener (going with Hatto’s version)

    #178256

    Stuart
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    Don’t know about other brands as I have a Scotts/Ohlins.

    The more you wind it up to stiffen, the less it will dampen when you hit something.

    So stiff is for high speed, desert, sand etc

    Somewhere in the middle I’m happy

    Minimal damping is backed off, This will absorb the big deflections, no good for higher speeds & stability

    Then there is the base v/v that you don’t touch.

    Also has settings for degrees away from centre damping with no return damping on the off road model

    #178762

    Nick Jackson
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    After all that talk of spelling it’s good to get down to how to use the errr? Steering thing!
    Thanks for that info sb, I’m riding with STM this weekend so it will best fast and tight so I’m guessing start of mid soft?

    #178763

    Dean
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    Nick, I have a Roc Stomper on my 300 Gasser, In the really tight singles I either back it right off ie fully counter clock wise or just bump it off. If you are riding in Goolies and or sand about midway is the go and if the speed picks up and you have a lot of twin trail etc go up to max setting. you will soon work it out what is best for you ;) Because I have a Gumby hand I really do need it helps no end, my brother is exactly the same on his RMX stopped him from crashing heaps, and he has regained a lot of his speed that he lost after his surgery. They are definateley a good thing in my case anyway. B)

    Ollie

    #178817

    Nick Jackson
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    Thanks for that advice Ollie I injuered my hand riding last year and on long rides it plays up. Sounds like the roc stomper could be a better investment than I thought!

    #178820

    Greg
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    Nah they all work the same Nick its just that they have different features more so then anything I am sure you will like the one you have. I have used (for more then a day) or owned a WER, Roc Stompa, Scott and the current MSC. I would own by choice either a MSC or Scott there was a couple of things I didnt like about the Roc and the WER I think has its limits

    TB

    #178821

    Nick Jackson
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    After riding with the dampener last weekend i was really cautious of putting it on as when did I felt like I was’ off balance in a rut’ and fighting the thing.
    Is this commen and do you get used to it?

    #179474

    Greg
    Member

    Nickj wrote:

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    After riding with the dampener last weekend i was really cautious of putting it on as when did I felt like I was’ off balance in a rut’ and fighting the thing.
    Is this commen and do you get used to it?

    Sounds as though you have it adjusted to tight, maybe start on a easier setting and work your way up if you need later

    TB

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