There has to be another option ……………….Surely

[Bob DowsettMember]

I need to upgrade my up and coming race star from a Pw 50 to a faster bike

Keeping in mind he is only 6, has short legs and can’t go on a 65 until he is 9(I think).

ttr 50 may as well be a pw 50 , same as a crf 50 ????????

And for christ sake I can’t bring myself to buy a KTM 50 sx mini :blush:

He is jumping logs and jumps and riding berms (sort of )and improving on his desert whoops …………all a little over what a pw50 was made for :laugh:

Any ideas appreciated

[Matt BakerMember]

KTM!!!!

Just buy some black plastics for it so you don’t have to look at the orange

[Adrian LeeMember]

Sounds like your in the same situation as Jak and he went the CRF option for his son.

[ianMember]

and for christ sake I can’t bring myself to buy a KTM 50 sx mini :blush:

Why not? my boys have had a 08 ktm 50 sx junior for 2 1/2 years its the one with the senior motor (water cooled)in a smaller frame and a 14mm carby ( the seniors have 19 mm) with the spring clutch its a very easy bike to ride at first and then ive added the washers to the clutch now(now there a bit more used to it) plus a 19 mm carby so its was a great bike for them to jump from a kdx 50 and plenty of room to progress with a lower seat that came with it ,. 2 holes for for the rear shock to adjust height
ive had them out in the bush with it on mx tracks its never missed a beat (it was getting ridden every weekend somewhere not once a month) just put piston,rings, little end,mains bearings &seals,drive shaft bearings&seals, waterpump bearings &seals after 2 years of riding it and the whole lot cost $165 to do Cheap as and have got a new sticker kit and chain&sprockets coming for it and it will be under someone elses christmas tree this year and it will be still going strong for someone else
its been a great bike for my eldest progress to the 65 and the youngest will kiss the 50 goodbye and have a 65 for next year its taught them about 2 stroke power which in my books is great

[Bob DowsettMember]

:blush:
Its a pride thing

I have spent soooooooo long hangin shit on KTM’s ( and fixing them on the trail :laugh: )

Whats the go or differences/options

KTM50 SX MINI

Ktm 50 sx junior ?senior

KTM 50 mini adventurer

Its all jibberish to me

[Adrian LeeMember]

Forget the kato and just buy the bloody honda

[ianMember]

yeah mate i will admit its easy to get confused with the variying types the senior and junior are water cooled the junior has drum rear brake
14mm carb(senior 19mm)just detunes it abit
10 inch wheels (senior has 12 inch front) just a smaller frame
the mini adventures are aircooled
in 2009 i think they just changed the names of the seniors to mini sx
but i will say one thing im not sure about all models of ktm minis both my boys 50 and 65 are 08 models which is the end of the beta motors( which the husky 50s and 65 have in them now) and they have been bullet proof and will be buying another 08 ktm 65 for the upgrade of the youngest boys bike this year

[Matt BakerMember]

LEM is another mini bike brand, don’t know what their parts and service is like?

Italian made, apparently they fly

[DeanMember]

Krams young bloke has a Huskyboy and its been a great little bike, I think he has outgrown it now so may be up for sale ? Gasgas do a 50 as well only new release. The lem are rocket ships I think their predecessors where the Italjet,a mates kid many years ago used to race them and it was seriously fast !!

If you go the KTM route KTMRAT and KTMBULL know how to get them going and also improve their reliability

Ollie

[ianMember]

just for the record though im not saying the crfs are no good it depends what you want for a bike for your kids im just saying there not a bad bike and have been reliable for me theres plenty of bike for them to grow into

[Bob DowsettMember]

unfortunately KTMs are like chook shit …………….everywhere
so parts would be better

[MalMember]

The Husky would be an option Bob. A mate in town had his young bloke on one and it screamed.

Drop into Mouldoons at Bathurst next time you’re in there, I think he had one on the floor.

KTMs are like SS Commonwhores and XR8s, everyone has one. :laugh:

[James RookyardMember]

You can’t compare a CRF50 with a KTM 50. The step up is from PW/CRF50 to a fast 50 i.e. a KTM. They are chalk and cheese. The KTM seems like its what you are after if your son has outgrown a PW50. However he won’t last long on a fast 50 either.
My young bloke went straight from a CRF to a KX65 when he was 8 and a half but it shattered his confidence a bit. I was trying to dodge the fast 50 because they drive me nuts at race days. They are a good bike though I have heard the clutch can give you grief. Might be more of a poor maintenance problem though.
So….. skip the CRF and give the KTM a go.I reckon the CRF is a great starting point, not step two. I am not a fan of the pumpkin coloured brand either. I had to cover the ktm bit on my Husabergs compliance plate with black texta lol.

[ianMember]

jimmy wrote:

You can’t compare a CRF50 with a KTM 50. The step up is from PW/CRF50 to a fast 50 i.e. a KTM. They are chalk and cheese. The KTM seems like its what you are after if your son has outgrown a PW50. However he won’t last long on a fast 50 either.
My young bloke went straight from a CRF to a KX65 when he was 8 and a half but it shattered his confidence a bit. I was trying to dodge the fast 50 because they drive me nuts at race days. They are a good bike though I have heard the clutch can give you grief. Might be more of a poor maintenance problem though.
So….. skip the CRF and give the KTM a go.I reckon the CRF is a great starting point, not step two. I am not a fan of the pumpkin coloured brand either. I had to cover the ktm bit on my Husabergs compliance plate with black texta lol.

totally agree with you that you cant compare the crf to a ktm like i said its which way you want to go with your kids, just an idea with stepping up to a 65 for future reference add a fly wheel weight at first just to tame the snap of a 65 these little buggers will surprise you nlet alone your kids

[Bob DowsettMember]

Yeh I knew the crf wasn’t any or much better than a pw
If he is going to improve he needs a small one that screams(along with his mother)and when he can throw that around like a rag doll we can progress with ease :unsure: to a 65

The problem we have is short legs and cvan’t race a 65 until 9 ….I think .

i don’t want him on a 65 anyway , not after the pace he was taking the whoops at canobolas to try and catch his mate ………….and come unstuck oops.

Was all good kept racing for the rest of the day, I just had to go home and build the boy some whoops :laugh:

Husky …………. not sure wether i can go their either, I want it to finish its first race without something falling off of it :laugh:

I could handle a husky more than a KTM (even if it was a better bike????)

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