There has to be another option ……………….Surely

[Justin WilliamsMember]

GoKTM…… TB likes em… :laugh:

[dennis da menaceMember]

swallow your pride Bob.

dont let your son suffer for your racial prejudices :laugh: :laugh:

he deserves better, he deserves a Kato!!!!

[MattMember]

I think Suzuki JR80. I saw one going around at the taree track a couple of months ago looked good. Oil injected low maintenance.
http://www.suzukimotorcycles.com.au/bikes/off-road/two-wheel-fun/2006/jr80.html

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[Mick DMember]

I went through the whole 50cc scenario with my daughter.

We started her on a PW50 then we got a KTM mini adventure, then she progressed to the KTM pro senior of which we had two. She raced all four bikes and she was fastest on the mini adventure I think. Being air cooled and not so highly strung it was easier for her to manage. And it just kept going and going with minimal problems. The Pro senior however, was a totally different kettle of fish, it was loud and obnoxious and toey as a tom cat. If you let her ride it for to long on a grass track the things would get hot and burn the stator out and it would run like a hairy goat until you forked out the $160 for a new stator.

Once she started to get to tall for the pro senior and it was time to learn how to change gears we got her a PW80, once she got the hang of that and it was time to learn the clutch, she spent some time on a DS80 (JR80). once the clutch and gears were mastered we put her on a KX65 and she never looked back, the KX’s are great little bikes, we have had 4 over the years with out an issue of any sort and now she has a KX100 that goes like a scalded cat.

If your young bloke is small in stature at the moment, I would seriously look at a KTM mini or senior Adventure.

[Bob DowsettMember]

Is the pro senior the same as a sx50

50sx mini
50 sx mini adven
sx50 ?SEnior junior??

WTF

[Mick DMember]

The SX and the Pro Senior are the one and same. After 09 they started calling them Mini SX (I think)

I think they make a Pro Junior as well, Both are water cooled screamers. :pinch:

The Adventure series comes in both Senior and junior versions. The Junior being shorter in seat height.
The Adventure series are more user friendly, being air cooled and a whole heap quieter!

[Matt BakerMember]

Just google the KTM website you stupid farmer :laugh:

50 sx = too tall

[attachment=3621]2012Ktm50sx.jpg[/attachment]

50 sx mini = just right

[attachment=3620]50_SX_Mini_2012.jpg[/attachment]

[drewMember]

gas gas electric

2013 SX 50 mini :

Engine Type1-cylinder 2-stroke engine, water cooled, with reed intake
Displacement 49.0cm³
Bore / Stroke39.5/40mm
Starter / BatteryKickstarter
Transmission Rigid 1-stage reduction gear
Fuel Management Dell’Orto PHVA 12 XS
Lubrication Separate lubrication
Primary Ratio33:61 straight cut spur gear
Final Drive 10:42
Cooling Liquid cooling system
Clutch 3-lining automatic clutch on the main shaft / centrifugal force
Ignition Selettra 2p D36

Frame Central tube frame of chrome molybdenum steel tubing, powder coated
Sub-Frame steel
Handlebar aluminium tapered
Front SuspensionWP Suspension USD 35
Rear Suspension WP Suspension 3614 BAEM
Suspension Travel – Front / Rear100/171mm
Front / Rear BrakesDisc brake 160mm front / 140mm rear
Front / Rear Rims1.6 x 10″ / 1.6 x 10″ aluminium
Front / Rear Tyres2.50 x 10″ / 2.75 x 10″
Chain 1/2 x 3/16″
Silencer aluminium
Steering Head Angle67.4º
Wheel Base914 ± 10mm
Ground Clearance184mm
Seat Height 558mm
Tank Capacity approx.2.0l
Weight Without Fuel approx. 40.5kg

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2013 SX 50 :

Engine Type1-cylinder 2-stroke engine, water cooled, with reed intake
Displacement49.0cm³
Bore / Stroke3
Starter / BatteryKickstarter
TransmissionRigid 1-stage reduction gear
Fuel ManagementDell’Orto PHBG 19 BS
LubricationMixture oil lubrication
Primary Ratio33:61 straight cut spur gear
Final Drive11:40
CoolingLiquid cooling system
Clutch3-lining automatic clutch on the main shaft / centrifugal force
IgnitionSelettra 2p D36

FrameCentral tube frame of chrome molybdenum steel tubing, powder coated
Sub-Frame steel
Handlebaraluminium tapered
Front SuspensionWP Suspension USD 35
Rear SuspensionWP Suspension 3614 BAEM
Suspension Travel – Front / Rear200/185mm
Front / Rear BrakesDisc brake 160mm front / 140mm rear
Front / Rear Rims1.6 x 12″ / 1.6 x 10″ aluminium
Front / Rear Tyres60/100-12″ / 2.75 x 10
Chain1/2 x 3/16″
Silencer aluminium
Steering Head Angle 66º
Wheel Base1032 ± 10mm
Ground Clearance 252mm
Seat Height 684mm
Tank Capacity approx.2.3l
Weight Without Fuel approx. 41.5kg

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all specs taken from http://www.ktm.com.au/Minicycle

basically the new SX 50 Mini and SX looks like wheel size, seat height and suspension travel.

as for older models if you are looking for second hand, i have no idea. but what’s new there.

[Bob DowsettMember]

I’m not fu234king stupid :ohmy: all the time , I can use google
all that crap doesn’t tell me what you can and can’t modify to you own requirements :laugh:

I’m of the suspicion a mini of any version may only suit him for 6 months

[Bob DowsettMember]

micknmeld wrote:

The SX and the Pro Senior are the one and same. After 09 they started calling them Mini SX (I think)

I think they make a Pro Junior as well, Both are water cooled screamers. :pinch:

The Adventure series comes in both Senior and junior versions. The Junior being shorter in seat height.
The Adventure series are more user friendly, being air cooled and a whole heap quieter!

at least I’ll be able to hear and find him when he’s at home :laugh:

[Matt BakerMember]

I’m of a suspicion that the 50 sx might be too tall for you also :laugh:

Looks like they don’t make the senior/junior/adventure anymore.

[glennMember]

Crf 70
There not to big and he will have it for years. My daughter has one and the young fella has a jianshe py 80. He will get the 70 when she hates bikes.

[Bob DowsettMember]

apparently???? the adventure models stopped in 07????

I’m about sick of this shite 👿

Maybe he can walk

[ianMember]

i think thats the main issue with any kids bob they grow out of them quick im lucky theres 20 months between my 2 boys im gettin roughly 2 years out of each bike as they get handed down by the time i get the second year my youngest has well and truly grown to move on.
The ktm sx junior i have at its highest seat height is 600 mm and with the lowest its about570mm (this is with the lower seat that i have) ive seen other ktms have the stator problem but they also have the clutches set up so they are either a light switch on or off with there power so to get them going there working hard all the time but thats only the way you set the clutch up you can have these bikes a little bit tamer with a bit of mucking around.
I thought about going the crf 70 way but its also 20 kg heavier seat is 663mm tall and at that stage ( my boys were 6&8 and also short asses) didnt think it was the way to go
i feel for you mate its a hard to say which way you should go take him in to the honda dealer and see if he could go a crf70.
what ever bike you buy it wont last that long before they grow out of it but the key is ( i think anyway ) dont but to much bike so they keep on falling off and dont want to get back on it

[ianMember]

to give you an idea on size heres when i first bought up against a kdx 50 at its lowest height with the low seat on

and heres one 12 mths later next to the ktm 65 before i got the 65 lowered and the 50 was at its tallest height

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