This is just plain wrong.

[glennMember]

I think we should hold the obt chrissy party on the said property and bring your loud pipes.. F$Kn city folk.

tell them to go hug a light pole or some thing. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

[Mick DMember]

Thanks Ecks for the info…..I will pass it on to the friend involved.(Work mate) That sort of info could be handy. Thanks for taking the time to look it up mate. A lay person like myself may have had to search the web for hours to get that info.

[dennis da menaceMember]

the whole thing sux mick. hope old mate gets up em. :angry:

you are a legend Ecks

[Richard WMember]

Quote:

That development application 2008/0183 for continued use of an existing motocross practice track for organised motocross practice on Lot 6 DP 594792 & Lot 6 DP 294793, 1191 Ocean Drive, Bonny Hills, be granted consent subject to the recommended conditions in the attached assessment report dated 21 January 2009 and as amended below:

Amended Conditions:

Amend
A(2) The development is…to read:
The development is time limited to a period of 2 years from the date of commencement.

Additional condition:
B(1) A management plan is to be submitted to Council’s Manager of Building and Development Assessment and approved in writing by Council. The plan is to include:

(a) A list of management techniques that include:
– supervision by an adult (over 21) at all times;
– one rider to be appointed “track captain” whenever in use;
– hours and days of operation;
– number of riders;
– limitation of riders to 4 stroke, 250cc bike motors only;
– details of dust control and treatment measures;
– a log of operational events recording times of use, number of riders, general description of weather at each time and any complaints received;
– a “hot-line” telephone contact is case of a need for additional mitigation and/or control. Details of any calls are to be recorded in the log;
– all visitors cars are to be able to enter and leave in a forward direction.

(b) A Revised layout plan showing where visitors cars are to be parked and where toilets are located and access there to.

current B(1) to be amended to B(2) A noise attenuation….to read:
A noise attenuation barrier is to be installed to extend the existing intervening topography between the track and the western internal wire fence line of the designated riding area between the front and rear paddocks on Lot 6 DP 594793 and to extend a distance equal in length to the common boundary with 30 Wandoo Place. Full details are to be submitted to Council for approval prior to installation/construction. The barrier is to be screened from the street by the planting of local native shrubs and trees. Deatils to be submitted to council for approval with the noise barrier details.

current B(2) to be numbered to B(3) .

Additional condition B(4) to read:
Evidence of public liability insurance cover is to be submitted to Council.

Amend C(2) The track is…to read:
The track is to be only used when the moisture content of the surface will limit the amount of dust produced and prevent dust from crossing property bondaries.

Amend C(3) Where, prior to…to read:
When dust travles beyond property boundaries, all operations are to cease and the entire track is to be watered prior to the practice session recommencing.

Amend C(4) The track shall…to read:
The track shall not be used during adverse wind conditions where there is potential for impacts from dust on neighbours or when dust crosses property boundaries.

Amend C(6)(DF031) Hours of use…to read:
Hours of use of the motocross track are restricted to the following:
– A total of 6 hours per week Monday to Saturday, excluding public holidays.
– A total maximum of 2 hours in one session/day Monday to Friday between 2.00pm – 6.00pm, and 9.00am -12.00noon Saturdays.
– No riding is to occur on Sundays and Public Holidays.
– Accompanying amplified music or track announcements (track calling) is prohibited.

A log is to be completed on a regular basis and kept on-site by the owner at all times which includes details of the riding times, which complies with these requirements. The log is to be made available to Council officers for inspection if required.

Amend C( A maximum of…to read:
A maximum of four (4) motor bikes are permitted on the site on any given day with three (3) motor bikes only being able to be used on the track at any one time during the restriction hours in condition C(6).

Additional condition:
C(9) Use track must not exceed a maximum noise level of 55dBA at the western common boundary with 30 Wandoo Place (the location identified in the ERM report approved as part of this consent).

[Mick DMember]

Thanks Dickie. I actually know the people involved in that Bonny Hills application as well. Another case of happy days untill some arse moves in.

[Bruce CurtisMember]

I put a rant uip at DBW (& I thought here too) on this. The laws used are actually STATE zoning & Land use laws, combined with STATE noise legislation. Now in no way am I condoning councils actions but sometimes they are forced to act or get pinged by the dept of Local government with the ultimate concerns being administrators put in place of elected officials.
This is way too common in many ways, the NSW STATE government has been passing laws and then abdicating rsponsibilty and MAKING local councils enforce them for them, result Local government looks bad, STATE wankas coe off smelling like roses.
Our compliance officer spends 95% of his time dealing with STATE issues, and even is forced to dob us in, yet his pay comes from the council.
What some of the people round here have done (after a local cse got way way out of hand with a third generation MX track being shut down by a weekend hobby farmer/ big city lawyer using STATE lwas to force council to do his dirty work) is formed a Pro-bike lobby group, every region should do the same and lobby directly at STATE level.

The bloody Kyogle club track which I raced at their track as a youngster (and in my opinion is one, if not the BEST N/T circuit in NSW) is also in danger from these phickin’ tin-god wankas coming to OUR area and putting THEIR demands on locals

[Eric SmithMember]

State laws, yes, but interpretation is the key BC.

We have HUGE dramas at the moment in Wellington shire because if you have a farm with a house on it and want to subdivide in a rural area you are supposed to have 400 hectares – that’s 1000 acres… in each lot! Surrounding LEP’s are like this: Cabonne: 250 acres. Midwestern Regional (Mudgee): 250 acres. Dubbo: 2000 Acres, but you can do a thing called a Property Development Plan if you want to go smaller. Now, most of Wellington shire is similar to Cabonne and Mudgee in landform and land use. Dubbo starts to get broadacre so its a bit different. We have found a way, using a state environmental plannning policy, to get our rural subdivisions through, based on interpretation of the legislation. :blink:

I don’t approve in any way, the State overriding the Council’s but given the pathetic way most Council’s have worded their LEP’s (I can’t think of one that doesn’t have contradictions in it), I can understand how it has come about. Most of our problems in Wellington shire are because of piss poor wording in the writing of the LEP and development control plans associated with it. I pointed these problems out when the documents were first put up for review, but nothing was done and here we are, playing with ridiculous state planning policies to combat it. :angry:

Common sense should be legislated in to Council’s because it sure as hell isn’t Policy with them. Sadly, the State govt is NOT the organisation to do it.

My grand plans include doing away with state govt altogether and have the Council’s directly answering to Federal. Do away with the inefficient shiny-arsed seat warmers in State departments, give Council’s some real funding, which will flow on to them getting decent staff, which will lead to ratepayers and applicants actually getting some kind of result!

Vote 1 ECKS! :laugh:

On the topic at hand, I am still waiting for a reply. Keep ya posted!

[Bruce CurtisMember]

I agree ECKS, there are certainly some very piss poor council officers out there whom just don’t give a damn. But many have been crush by a silent system of State overlording everything that’s right for the community and grinding certain councils into a paste, menatlly and emotionally.
I know we have a couple over State authorities that just LOVE reminding us that they tell us what to do, and how we answer to ththem.

It’s got so ridiculous, I think if the population of NSW acactually knew how far and deep the State meddles in their affairs they would march en-masse’ and phuk them off

I too would abolish the states in a blink of an eye.

Luckily I work with a great council, our LEP was written by a very switched on Lady, who discovered the holes in the state guidelines and lack of appendices (even though they are referred too in the states’ overarching docs.

Was checked by a regional committee and even though she says it’s unworkable (due to the States lack of proper process in their guides) it is the best we have seen yet.

The problem with most councils is pure funding and passion, the funding is shot to pieces and passion is squashed by Big bro’

[Mick DMember]

I see that it is a problem across the state then and not just limited to our dodgy piss poor council.

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