Todays thought-

[Bruce CurtisMember]

xy-transit wrote:

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micknmeld wrote:

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Global warming? I like the idea. Cant wait to catch Barramundi in the Hastings.

I read an interesting take on rising sea levels a while back, they suggested that the rising levels are from the displacement caused by all the boats now days, as there are a lot more boats than there was 100 years ago when they are comparing measurments with.I do believe this was said in jest though.

what about all the exploration that is going on in the arctic circles!!!!

the ice breakers take in and out people and equipment. the ice then floats away and melts.

so who exactly is causing the polar ice depletion and therefor the sea levels to change ?!?!!? :angry: :blink: :huh: :unsure: :S

>> necessity is the mother of invention. breakage is the father of necessity << book of drewpy 1:1

Nice thoughts tranny, but on a whole the amount of activity you speak of is miniscule compared to the overall ice cap, this I have on good authority, my late uncle and one of my current workmates were both based down there with meteorological depts in recent times.
Besides the polar caps diminishing is but one tiny aspect of the global environmental changes that are likely to occur, and probably have the lest impact on our overall wellbeing.

I’m just throwing it out there, for I am neither a sayer, nor nay-sayer of the cause, just trying to get it right in my mind. and i personally reckon we should all be concerned about what is being said in the media one way or another, cause Honestly I don’t trust politicians or professional green9ies with the future of the planet or Humankind.

[john morganMember]

…just BE the ball….

[Jeffrey SmithMember]

Mate I wouldn’t trust them with anything, the seat sniffing muck raking scumbags

[simon burkeMember]

“I think people should be free to engage in any sexual practices they choose; they should draw the line at goats though.”
Elton John.

Boony?

sorry Blue…serious….ummmm :huh:

“if in doubt….out”….
my grandfather taught me that one, and i live by it

Bol :woohoo:

[drewMember]

thanks fellas. i’m still hesitant about my return of sorts.

as to your replies Hatto and Mr Blue. i understand the ice to water ratio/ displacement diff.

my point was thinking in mind that some point to the polar caps depletion and ice floating away from the polar regions as certain proof for their case that global warming is fact.

my point is that with the ice breakers going in and out has to impact on the amount of ice that floats away from the region.

as for global warming. i’m still out.

has the climate changed, in my mind yes. but global warming???

someone the other day in the states said it was quoted that they had more snow and ice and colder temps than the previous few years as a direct result of global warming?? :dry: :unsure: :S :blush:

do we need to look long and hard as to how we treat the land? Yes.

but the hardest part is getting a balance

[Bruce CurtisMember]

xy-transit wrote:

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thanks fellas. i’m still hesitant about my return of sorts.

as to your replies Hatto and Mr Blue. i understand the ice to water ratio/ displacement diff.

my point was thinking in mind that some point to the polar caps depletion and ice floating away from the polar regions as certain proof for their case that global warming is fact.

my point is that with the ice breakers going in and out has to impact on the amount of ice that floats away from the region.

as for global warming. i’m still out.

has the climate changed, in my mind yes. but global warming???

someone the other day in the states said it was quoted that they had more snow and ice and colder temps than the previous few years as a direct result of global warming?? :dry: :unsure: :S :blush:

do we need to look long and hard as to how we treat the land? Yes.

but the hardest part is getting a balance

I agree with that whole statement Trannie, another aspect is that the planet has it’s own cycles that may have been disrupted in the last millenia by the landbridge between the north and south americas, which in effect has stopped the equalisation of the worlds temperatures. Whereas once the waters circled the globe almost without barriers and disappated heat from large warm masses and then warmed up smaller colder masses or those nearer the extremes, now or sonce the time it became cojoined this has been impeded, and things have been going out of kilter, which also explains why winters are more severe at ties too, the gradual heating of some sections of the globe and the gradual cooling of others, either way that would be outside our doing or control. BUT (big but notice?) are we exacerbating the whole issue by pumping the untold millions of tonnes of crap we do into the atmosphere and relying soley upon the oceans to regulate temperatures?
Remember the land masses are but 12% of the surface of the planet, and most life lives beneath the water, have we screwed that too?

BC

[TrentMember]

Surely the bulk and now rapid removal and combustion of so much oil and coal etc. must have an effect on the earth’s equilibrium.

I watched 2012 on the weekend. errr…. interesting movie

[TrentMember]

By the way when I first read this “thought” I had to show the missus because it applied perfectly to our situation this week. We’re looking at buying a house at the moment and she is anxious to put it lightly and was asking why she was so unsure about things even though we’ve done so much homework compared to friends of ours that bought with a 100% loan on the spur of the moment. It’s a bit smug and possibly naive to claim being intelligent just because you’re full of doubt though :p

[drewMember]

never hold in a fart, as it will seep into your spinal column and travel up into your brain. this is how crappy ideas are borne :blink: :silly: :laugh:

[Bruce CurtisMember]

Exactly my thoughts AB, how can we not be having some effect?

not to mention just the extraction of huge amounts of subsurface materials, what is this doing to the plates etc?

[drewMember]

i just had another thought as to our effect on the earth as per AB and BC, what about the likes of Japan where they took the tops off the mountains and dumped it in the sea just off shore to create a new island, they would have at a guess shifted billions of tons of dirt, that would have loaded plates etc. that were formerly not. and this would have displaced how much? sea water? :unsure:

[Mick DMember]

Dunno about that XY, Kansai airport maybe big but I dont think it would make that much of a difference.

The thing that causes damage is the $17 one way trip on that bridge across to it and the $60 in tolls from Osaka to the bridge.

[Bruce CurtisMember]

micknmeld wrote:

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Dunno about that XY, Kansai airport maybe big but I dont think it would make that much of a difference.

yeah Mick, not by its’ lonesome, but all the others, in Miami, Dubai, our own goldcoast all the places where we have reclaimed or just plain made land is all part of the bigger picture, we change so so much and all of us assume that we are causing minimal impact, but each one of us scurrying little ants going about our business never stop to look at the really big scene and occassionally we do and it scares us, so we don’t anymore.

Do you blokes realise we know more about what’s on the surface of the moon that what is really at the bottom of our oceans?

[drewMember]

i may very well be wrong i saying Japan Mick, the one i’m thinking of is more than just an airport. it is a whole new island/ city.

come to think of it it may be China???, it’s one of the countries where there is the one child pre household/ couple policy. and on this new island ( could be 15 yrs ago now) there is/wasn’t the one child policy.

i wasn’t implying this alone would have a big impact but as BC pointed out it soon ads up quick.

on a ride a while ago we came across a motor bike tube that had obviously been replaced out in the bush. a comment at the time was they could carry it in with them. so i took it upon myself to take it out with me.

my take on it is, if everyone that cares takes just one piece of rubbish out left behind by those that don’t care :angry: the places we enjoy would hopefully stay clean or even be better than when we turned up. maybe :dry:

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