trady’s rate of pay.

[drewMember]

Just come from reading the latest on AB’s drowned bike thread.

and reading if the engine in his bike has to be dropped out to helicoil the drain plug .

and he will drop the engine himself to save $100/h for the shop to do it.

NOW my Q? is how can the shop justify stinging the customer $70+/h for work. when the bloke turning the spanners would get something like $25 – 35 if he/she’s lucky.

now the customer that works would be paid something like $25-35/h. ( i’m going on average working person’s rate of pay, not specialised fields. if my rate of pay info is out please correct me)

so how can they justify charging 3 times the customer’s rate of pay!?

and the ( Some ) shops get all snotty when you Q? the rate you pay for them to work on it!

and even more so, if you get a quote on work and you say you will have to do it yourself to save $$$

i do realise that the shops have overheads to pay. but getting $50+/hr for very little is over the top if you ask me!

end of rant (in this post anyway)

[murph the surfMember]

Agreed XY
It seems most, if not all bike shops are out to empty our pockets. Theres not much work that you cant do yourself if you put your mind to it:)
Cheers
Murph

[drewMember]

so by my calculations if 1 mechanic dose 5hrs a day, 5 days a week

that’s $875 per week (worker’s pay deducted) for the boss/owner gets just for what? not quite nothing but close enough to it at some places.

so if the shop operates for 5 days a week for 45 weeks a year, 1 mechanic has earned the boss $39 375.00. so multiply that by each mechanic in the workshop.

AND then there is the 32% plus, mark up on all the parts/ consumables they put on/into your bike/car etc.

[drewMember]

Murph the surf wrote:

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Agreed XY
It seems most, if not all bike shops are out to empty our pockets. Theres not much work that you cant do yourself if you put your mind to it:)
Cheers
Murph

yeah murph,

i don’t mind paying a bit extra for a guy that really knows his stuff! and can shorten the stay of your bike in his shop= it has a problem you simply cannot identify or fix. he has the know how to do it in the quickest time reasonable. without compromising/ corner cutting.

[murph the surfMember]

Don’t know how they stay afloat?????
Wish I owned a bike shop:woohoo:
Murph

[FezMember]

I had my rims relaced recently and got stung $66/hr only to be told after I took the rims back to get them re balanced, as they as wobbly to be told that the young guy doing a trial before getting an apprenticeship with the shop didn’t know they had to be balanced:angry: :angry: :angry: . That poor kid would be lucky to see any of the $196 3hrs labour I paid to get both rims relaced. After 6 days at the shop in total the wheels still wobbled and I ended up taking it elsewhere to get it fixed.

[drewMember]

xy-transit wrote:

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so by my calculations if 1 mechanic dose 5hrs a day, 5 days a week

that’s $875 per week (worker’s pay deducted) for the boss/owner gets just for what? not quite nothing but close enough to it at some places.

so if the shop operates for 5 days a week for 45 weeks a year, 1 mechanic has earned the boss $39 375.00. so multiply that by each mechanic in the workshop.

AND then there is the 32% plus, mark up on all the parts/ consumables they put on/into your bike/car etc.

oh the above was worked out at $70/h charged and $35/h pay for the worker.

[Jeffrey SmithMember]

A friend of mines step son works as a mechanis=c at a well known Newcastle bike shop, I know from experience that they charge close to $100 an hour for work performed yet he was only getting payed around $17 dollars an hour. When he asked for a oay rise he was told they couldn’t afford it. Yet when he left to work as a labourer for around $23 and hour they were able to beat that rate to keep him.

Now I know that there are overheads like workers compensation, holiday and sick pay, public liability etc, but I work in the engineering industry and at the company I work for the cost of employment is around $20 an hour over the employees wage rate.

The Bottom line is that it is a supply and demand situation, if we need the supply they demand shitloads of money.

[drewMember]

Jeffro wrote:

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The Bottom line is that it is a supply and demand situation, if we need the supply they demand shitloads of money.

as i said earlier they react like your a cheapskate, but when their rate is 3-4 times what you earn well you have to ask your self if it needs to be done immediately.

when you say you can do it yourself, it’s as if you’re offending them when you decline them the privilege of taking your money.

i live in a town of about 6500, and 1-2 1/2hrs drive from bigger towns/cities.

some of the business owners get offended when you mention that you can get it up to 1/3 cheaper out of town.

one guy was getting parts from another shop and always asked for their best price, he got some discounts. however when the parts guy asked the other one for a discount at his business, he got none.

so the parts guy no longer discounts for the other one.

i told the guy i get my car parts from who is doing me Great deals, not to undercut himself too much. as some parts have been up to $70 less than the competition :ohmy:

i said to him if they only realised that they only need to be able to bring their prices to within $50 + what it would cost to travel to get it. ( if that makes any sense:blush: )

= if item is 1000 in town, you can get it from out of town for 750 but cost 100 to go get it,

in town only need to come down to 875-900 and you would shop in town. simple.

[GregMember]

Can I ask what you do for a quid XY?

TB

[drewMember]

Trailboss wrote:

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Can I ask what you do for a quid XY?

TB

Yeah sure TB, nothing.

i’m on the disability support pension.

i got unloaded from a ct 125 mustering sheep at my first full time job at 17:(

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yes no helmet, i did not know i was riding that day until i turned up for work. but on reflection i don’t think i owned a helmet at that time. boss didn’t offer on either.

left me with brain injury/ damage= i suffer from constant headaches and migraines. and more recently was diagnosed with sleep apnoea/ apnea depending on which dictionary you use.

as i’ve said in other threads/posts i’m grateful to those who do pay taxes!

and any mention of my income is for understanding not sympathy.

[GregMember]

Sorry to hear about your injuries mate that sux

[drewMember]

Trailboss wrote:

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Can I ask what you do for a quid XY?

TB

i forgot, i was borne post decimal so i get paid in dollars.

yeah what sucks more is some people’s attitude.

i mentioned to menace that i’m fed up with being branded as lazy.

and that when i mention money is tight they seem to think you expect a hand out.
not simply some understanding.

[GregMember]

xy-transit wrote:

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Trailboss wrote:

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Can I ask what you do for a quid XY?

TB

i forgot, i was borne post decimal so i get paid in dollars.

yeah what sucks more is some people’s attitude.

i mentioned to menace that i’m fed up with being branded as lazy.

and that when i mention money is tight they seem to think you expect a hand out.
not simply some understanding.

Look as long as you know and those close to you know the facts thats all that matters I say

As far as the thread goes heres my thoughts

As such I am a tradesman, have owned my own business, run workshops and been the manager for a few large companies.

I like you hate paying for what I feel is incompetent trades people. I suggest if you feel you can do it better yourself, do it yourself, if you can get it cheaper elsewhere go there first.

I live my life by those rules, but there are some great trades people out there that care and try for their customers.

TB

[drewMember]

Trailboss wrote:

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As far as the thread goes heres my thoughts

As such I am a tradesman, have owned my own business, run workshops and been the manager for a few large companies.

I like you hate paying for what I feel is incompetent trades people. I suggest if you feel you can do it better yourself, do it yourself, if you can get it cheaper elsewhere go there first.

I live my life by those rules, but there are some great trades people out there that care and try for their customers.

TB

yep 2nd that. TB

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