TUbliss tyre system ????

[GregMember]

Thanks for continuing the feedback Adam

TB

[Adam RodgersMember]

Well the Tubliss system got an extrordinary workout on the Old Bulls birthday ride :laugh:

Both Sam’s and my tyres were set as normal, Sam’s Metzler 6 days front at 10psi and his Pirelli MX Extra rear at 8 -9psi, and my Perilli MX Extra front at 8psi and Dunlop D952 rear at 11psi.

There is no shortage of rocks at Sunny Corner, sharp ones at that. Chris72a said he personally chiselled each one, a busy man :laugh:

Sam’s bike got a flat front, well actually it was Crash as he was riding it at the time, and as we had only just caught the whole groop back together after a flat (well one tyre two flats due to a pinched tube by those that will remain nameless :whistle: )
But as everyone wanted to know if the Tubliss system was all it’s literature makes it out to be the test was on

We attached a CO2 canister and squirted in some gas to find the hole, then inserted a plug with some glue, and put the rest of the canister in and presto fixed :woohoo: I was heaps faster than Crash when he repaired the other tyre twice, oops he was supposed to remain nameless :blush: :kiss: :laugh:

Crash made it back to the carpark with no dramas

When we got home and unloaded Sam noticed my front was flat :ohmy: This morning I checked it out, found the hole and plugged it as well

We’ll see how the plugs hold up however I doubt Sam will be keeping his 6 days tyre as nearly half the side nobs are either torn or completely missing, they may be good for raceing but don’t last on rocky terrain

Adam.

[GregMember]

Adam this is only my thoughts at the moment and would be happy to be proven wrong but I personally aren’t convinced these tube less things are the go just yet mate. If you think about it 50 odd bikes there on the weekend and we had three flats with tubes, two with standard tubes (shouldn’t be on an enduro bike) and one heavy duty. There were two bikes with tubeless system and both got flats. My rear was an S12 soft with 8psi and an ultra heavy duty Michelin tube, now I reckon I hit the shit as hard as anyone there and combined with my sumo body style that’s a fair test.
I look forward to your future thoughts and how they work because I like the idea and appreciate your input. By the way they are easy to fix but not as easy as a tyre that hasn’t gone flat.

Thanks again

TB

[scott bockingMember]

The one flat we had with a HD tube was not a pinch flat but a torn valve and was the fault of the shop that fitted it.

STM

[Adam RodgersMember]

Trailboss wrote:

Adam this is only my thoughts at the moment and would be happy to be proven wrong but I personally aren’t convinced these tube less things are the go just yet mate. If you think about it 50 odd bikes there on the weekend and we had three flats with tubes, two with standard tubes (shouldn’t be on an enduro bike) and one heavy duty. There were two bikes with tubeless system and both got flats. My rear was an S12 soft with 8psi and an ultra heavy duty Michelin tube, now I reckon I hit the shit as hard as anyone there and combined with my sumo body style that’s a fair test.
I look forward to your future thoughts and how they work because I like the idea and appreciate your input. By the way they are easy to fix but not as easy as a tyre that hasn’t gone flat.

Thanks again

TB

I agree the odds for the ride say alot. If you don’t try you’ll never know. I looked around the net a lot and couldn’t find any info that really gave any good feedback on the system but thought the idea had merit. I guess thats why NickJ posted this topic in the first place

Old Bulls is a great place to get real life experiences and opinions from people that ride in the same conditions and as with the birthday ride, plenty of riders too.

I guess time will tell as to the suitability of the system for our conditions. To this point they haven’t been difficult to live with.

I’m not sure when I got my puncture which is a pity because one of the stated features of the Tubliss system is being able to still ride with a flat.

Adam.

[murph the surfMember]

Hey Adam
Don’t forget that the co2 will cause your tyre to deflate over a period of a few days
Cheers
Murph

[Adam RodgersMember]

Murph the surf wrote:

Hey Adam
Don’t forget that the co2 will cause your tyre to deflate over a period of a few days
Cheers
Murph

Thanks Murph I didn’t know that

Yet another example of how good Old Bulls really is

Adam.

[GregMember]

adam wrote:

I agree the odds for the ride say alot. If you don’t try you’ll never know. I looked around the net a lot and couldn’t find any info that really gave any good feedback on the system but thought the idea had merit. I guess thats why NickJ posted this topic in the first place

Old Bulls is a great place to get real life experiences and opinions from people that ride in the same conditions and as with the birthday ride, plenty of riders too.

I guess time will tell as to the suitability of the system for our conditions. To this point they haven’t been difficult to live with.

I’m not sure when I got my puncture which is a pity because one of the stated features of the Tubliss system is being able to still ride with a flat.

Adam.

Adam I love the fact people that pay their hard earned for something put it out there for us all. Please dont think I am having a go at the system or you I am just plotting my thoughts. Yes would have been interesting for Sam to ride his back with a flat to see how it went given that you said the tyre is rooted anyway?

Keep up the great work thanks

TB

[Adam RodgersMember]

Well Sam and I have been running the Tubliss system for about nine months now so I thought I’d give some feed back

So far so good.

The system doesn’t stop you from getting flats, and the type of tyre you run can help.

The DRZ has done about 1800km, Sam’s KTM250 about 2000km and my KTM350 about 1500km on the system.

Both Katos had Metzler six days and they are quite soft and we both got a couple of flats in them, Sam at Sunny Corner and me at Nundle and the Watagans. we both now run Pirelli MX Extras as does the DRZ. These seem to puncture less easily.

The flats are easy to fix, and we also run a tyre slime which either slows the leak or stops it. But either way the slime being green makes it easier to find the hole and the fix with a tyre plug is really simple to do.

I have run on the flat and the way you tell it’s flat is by the extra bumps you get with a flat. As the tyre bead stays seated on the rim your stability remains fairly good.

So far we’ve had no flats on the rear tyres, I’m guessing their extra strength helps plus if you run over a sharp object the front finds it first :laugh:

Would I recommend the the system? yes, it’s easy to live with and I’ve only had to take wheels of our bikes to change tyres.

Cons ? None yet but only time will tell.

Adam.

[Nick JacksonMember]

Great feedback Adam ,

Are the front flats due to lower tyre pressure in search of more traction ??

If so , do you think a moose front and TuBliss rear could be a near perfect combination ????

[Dwayne OMember]

Sounds like the goods Adam
Any time saved on the trail by not having to remove a wheel to fix a flat is a winner

Although it is always a good move to remove it once home to check for internal damage and remove any foreign objects ,,,,
Keep the review ongoing mate

Cheers

[Adam RodgersMember]

Nickj wrote:

Great feedback Adam ,

Are the front flats due to lower tyre pressure in search of more traction ??

If so , do you think a moose front and TuBliss rear could be a near perfect combination ????

Nick,

I haven’t had any experience with mousse tubes so not sure.

I believe mousse tubes have a limit on their life but don’t know how long it is. The Tubliss system people say their life is yet to be determined as they don’t wear out, but that doesn’t mean you couldn’t destroy one.

I guess if a mousse can’t go flat then thats good, and you would only change it when you get home to your workshop anyway, so being more difficult to change shouldn’t matter.

Once in the Tubliss is easier than a standard tube for changing tyres and as I already have a Tubliss in the front I won’t change it till it fails which I hope won’t be any time soon

Adam.

[Nick JacksonMember]

I am now running a moose tube in the front for the first time and I have to say I can tell no difference between it and a tube so far. It is however a bastard to fit but I think now I’ve done one the next will be easier.

I really like the idea of the TuBliss system but have so few rear flats I’m not sure I need one where I ride , what made you get one in the first place Adam ?

[GregMember]

Thanks Adam for the feedback. I must say I was surprised at the amount of flats you guys get, I see they are easy to fix granted. I won’t compare mousse because they are different kettle of fish but I reckon a Michelin ultra heavy duty tube would be more reliable from what I have witnessed on rides. The birthday ride was a classic example rocky as shit but there were only four flats

1/ loose rim lock let the rear spin tearing the valve out

2/ front tube that was thinner than a comdom :huh:

3/ both tubeless bikes had flats, yes fast to fix but still something that takes time

No ultras even with 50 bikes.

All that said Adam I reckon certain brand of tyres will show they work better having better cases. The tubeless I was told they were invented for motocross to offer a lower unsprung mass, motocross tracks don’t have the rocks and logs and rock ledges we have to deal with causing the flats maybe

I like the idea and reckon they will get better, the slime is a good idea I will watch with interest, thanks again for the input it’s better than any magazine write up

Cheers

TB

[Adam RodgersMember]

Nickj wrote:

I am now running a moose tube in the front for the first time and I have to say I can tell no difference between it and a tube so far. It is however a bastard to fit but I think now I’ve done one the next will be easier.

I really like the idea of the TuBliss system but have so few rear flats I’m not sure I need one where I ride , what made you get one in the first place Adam ?

Nick,

I changed a rear tyre and in the process the valve tore so I put in a temporary spare. :blush: Then soon after on two Old Bulls rides I got flats in the front so it was time for new tubes all round and looked into the system and thought I’d give it a go, I couldn’t find many reviews at the time that gave any long term or informative feedback.

TB’s correct it does take time, I noticed the flat at Nundle whilst on a corner and had it fixed before the sweeps caught up so it doesn’t slow you too much. If you were racing it would make a difference though, but I don’t race

So between 3 bikes and 5000km of trails we’ve had 5 flats, 3 on the Metzlers. One of Sam’s was straight thru the middle of a knob (Pirelli) so I’m guessing a nail or something similar that would flatten any tube except a mousse, that flat was simply pumped up and repaired at home (couldn’t find the hole till later so the slime did it’s thing). Another 2 were not noticed until the trailer (either got holes near the end of the ride or the slime did it’s thing but let air out slowly) :huh:

It takes a couple of minutes to fix.

Sam and I still carry a spare tube just incase which has come in handy to help out other Old Bulls that have gotten flats :whistle:

Adam.

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