tyres…..who uses what???

[Mick DMember]

Yesterday I used a old bridgestone ED12 from the skip bin in my front yard. I threw it away when times were good and I could afford a new tyre for every ride. I rode all day on it and it hooked up well so I will use it again on Friday’s duel sport ride.
I am with Dand on the ED12 gritty, they are a good tyre that I have never managed to tear a knob off yet,though at $135 you would expect to get what you pay for.

[Anonymous]

Trailboss wrote:

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Having ridden alot out where you rode today and just spoken with Champo I wouldnt blame the tyre that much, the best thing that works out there is throttle control, because there is not traction out there Moto done at all

Tyres are simple, soft gives traction but wears out quick, hard wears slow but offers not traction.

Small blocks pearce the surface and give bite, big dont, small wear fast big done

You get what you pay for, and no two people agree on the same things as different bikes and different styles give different results

TB

Thanks coach, I realise that throttle control is what’s required (insert you funny comment about me falling off if it makes you feel better). However, I was comparing the tyre to the other tyres I’ve had and ran in the same conditions, and they seemed to handle better and provide confidence that I wasn’t going to end up on my arse when pushed. They seemed to grip well, but then suddenly just let go. Where as others have progressively lost traction and regained it when winding off the throttle slightly.

It’s great for an all round tyre but I won’t keep running them. I’m tempted to replace it and keep it for the Hillend style rides. That’s my personal preference.

For anyone that is interested (per previous comments, if you look at the Michelin website each tyre has a little graph to show it’s performance in differing terrain. For an all round tyre the Starcross MH3 looks the goods. I might try one of them next then if I can get one without any dramas

[Eric SmithMember]

Well I hate the ED12’s, they give no grip where I ride and who cares how long they last if there’s no grip?! I worked on about 700-1000km on a tyre with the DRZ and it looks like the WR will be similar. That’s not the hugest expense, compared to, say, busted levers, lights, bars, body from a fall that can be attributed to crappy tyres not gripping! I’ve experimented with a few different tyres now, and will go back to a Maxxis IT if I can and the current Dunlop 745 I have is also pretty good although worn in the middle from the Hill End roadwork.

Kenda Carlsbads rip off knobs on rocky ground and to ice that cake they also don’t grip in the hills around here. You don’t want to be trying Fern Gully at Catombal on a Carlsbad. Mick at Catombal uses Kenda Budds Creek rears and swears by them, but I haven’t tried them so couldn’t comment.

[dennis da menaceMember]

aarochild wrote:

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oh lord of the trails……….help me l.m.f.a.o.

that will be a interesting ride , how about i skin ya one ?

nooooo, sh*t no!!

sorry mate but im an animal lover. i wouldnt want you to kill one.
unless its for foodof course…. my stomach overpowers my morals:P

im no commie veggo. i love a good steak like the next man.

id find it easier to skin a human than an animal. ive been tempted to on a few occasions too :angry:

the horns will do just fine chum…

menace

(mmmmmmmmmmm…..steak…..drool….)

[dennis da menaceMember]

sorry boys, maybe i wasnt too clear on my queery…

its more the front tyre im thinking about.

the kato eats rear tyres (well it ate the metzeler 6 day that it came with in under 400 k’s….thats including the first 100 being for runnin in the donk). thats what savage 2 smokers do. (and i love it)

i checked out the michelin site and the starcross looks like its what im lookin for, it suits the terra firma i encounter.
i think ill give it a go..

but please feel free to give all your opinions, as i will take them all on board, and im sure others will too..

menace

[Anonymous]

one of my local shops sold me some rear ‘fortunes’ really cheap, and asked me to to get back to them if they should stock them.

my report was simple. they are really bad when new, and then get rapidly worse.

as well has wearing fast and giving a vague feel, the casing is weak. they are like a trials tyre casing. not good for hard hits

this is what happens on a cruisy ride

i actually put the tyre on for a grass track meet that i didn’t attend. it would have been fine for that. i almost took it off to fit a flogged out trials tyre on saturday, but the beach was too nice.

[alanMember]

got one of them(fortunes) for warchope ride think i better take another tyre with me should not be so tight should i and got a desent tyre

[aaron childsMember]

pirelli mt320
can anyone tell me if they are any good , 100 for the set new,
is it worth it? they r intermidiate

[alanMember]

sounds like a good deal to me aarochild

[Anonymous]

white rocket wrote:

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got one of them(fortunes) for warchope ride think i better take another tyre with me should not be so tight should i and got a desent tyre

to tell the truth. for trail riding, i don’t really care what tyre is one the back. but the fortunes are too desposible.

i had a very worn out set of tyres on for the hillend ride, and a had heaps of fun.

the next rear tyre i get for trail riding will be a retread. mainly for envirmoental reasons. thousands of years after i have died. that fortune tyre will still exist:(

[aaron childsMember]

what would they retail at 80-100 or more like 100-130?

thanks white rocket may order some.

[alanMember]

pirrelis prably 100 to 130 each don t know what they are like never used them but 100 for front and back is realy cheap they would prably be ok there old pirreli phantom road tyres were good paid 70$ for the fortune

[Nick AgainMember]

My bike came with Metz. Mc karroo’s on board. I had ALL kinds of pushing drama at the front. This thing would Washout on a toothpick rut. Just before it was time to replace the rear, i was playing with suspension a bit, not much, just a tiny bit of click here and back off spring there etc. And found the front tyre actually had more to offer than i thought.I replaced the rear with a Dun.952. I got some “serious” hook up from it, again I had to re-adjust susp. again to stop the karroo front washing. Replaced the Karroo front with Dun.952. Awesome grip compared to the stock. New rear is Now a MOTOZ Tractionator. It’s Softer than i thought it would be. Tracks up something ridiculous, in hard rocky, crumbly ground. Is a slip n slide machine on hardpack/ fine sandy stuff. And on holidays in slippery muddy stuff. This tyre has some serious side of tyre grip and gets out of a corner well. Good tyre but not going back for another. I’m considering a Mich. desert safari next..maybe, for the distances i do on bitumen. I guess its a trade off to reach the compromise of the “Best for what I do”.
menace, I used to use trials tyres on an old XL500 s. They lasted ok. for the amount of Road/dirt I was riding at the time. 65/35. I haven’t been able to find one Wide enough for the 610 rear…have been giving it some thought though. Ones I have seen have been dear too.

[Glenn ShawMember]

Husky610 wrote:

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My bike came with Metz. Mc karroo’s on board. I had ALL kinds of pushing drama at the front. This thing would Washout on a toothpick rut. Just before it was time to replace the rear, i was playing with suspension a bit, not much, just a tiny bit of click here and back off spring there etc. And found the front tyre actually had more to offer than i thought.I replaced the rear with a Dun.952. I got some “serious” hook up from it, again I had to re-adjust susp. again to stop the karroo front washing. Replaced the Karroo front with Dun.952. Awesome grip compared to the stock. New rear is Now a MOTOZ Tractionator. It’s Softer than i thought it would be. Tracks up something ridiculous, in hard rocky, crumbly ground. Is a slip n slide machine on hardpack/ fine sandy stuff. And on holidays in slippery muddy stuff. This tyre has some serious side of tyre grip and gets out of a corner well. Good tyre but not going back for another. I’m considering a Mich. desert safari next..maybe, for the distances i do on bitumen. I guess its a trade off to reach the compromise of the “Best for what I do”.
menace, I used to use trials tyres on an old XL500 s. They lasted ok. for the amount of Road/dirt I was riding at the time. 65/35. I haven’t been able to find one Wide enough for the 610 rear…have been giving it some thought though. Ones I have seen have been dear too.

Have you tried a Mitas E-09, I had one on my 625, for adventure rides.
quite alot of the adventure guys like them, plenty of info on the net about them especially on http://www.advrider.com/forums/

I got mine from here
http://www.motorcycletyres.net.au/shop/home.php?cat=256

[Bruce CurtisMember]

To answer Menaces’ question yes I have tried a trials tyre, the Pirelli on my old 300exc it gives amazing traction in most instances, but was unpredictable in braking and MX style cornering, it suited the 300 as they are slower on the revs than most other smokers and have good torque and nose down steering. Having said that once on swamp grass or similar it was a nightmare of the highest order, a bald mitas was far superior, but that was the only surface I found in 1000ks of riding that stopped it, hillclimbs were a cinch and power sliding on loose stuff was very progressive, wear factor was excellent and because of the high sidewalls you could run it down to 4.5 psi in real bad times and the rim didn’t get a single mark.
Looks poofy though although very Avante’ garde’ Knighter used one in erzberg last year.

wouldn’t put one on the YZ though as it spins up like no other bike I’ve ever owned and tends to rely on friction to get forward motion underway, so my current choice is dunlop soft compund 736 on front, very surefooted and neutral, and dunlop 952 on rear not as good as the 736 rear but lasts more than one ride and gives good grip and predictable response on most surfaces.
But remember the YZ weighs in around the 100kg mark so it probably wouldn’t suit a semi-touring heavyweight firetrail blaster.

BC

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