the weather was just to crap for ride today, so im putting it back to next sunday the 21st as i have to do a local ride to make sure my clutch is all good before i go way to far so same deal ,7.30 from my place at Seaham ( pm me for address details) around the90-95 km a little bit more if every ones fuel is okay im not real good on the grading side of it so one the others that have come out with me might throw a bit of light on the subject, if its dry i will throw caswells hill ( that was the one we came down at the end) if its still a bit wet well give it a miss it just gets too slippery, cheers huskybloke