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October 27, 2009 at 11:36 pm #158350
AnonymousWHy not 60:1 Axel? That’s what the manual recommends. Do they run better at 50:1 or is it just peace of mind for you?
I think I’ll get about 100Km’s from the standard tank before hitting reserve….
October 28, 2009 at 12:39 am #158353
Anonymousi’m out
i think i’ll go ride at cessnock with racy and my sister on saturday then dunes or adv on sunday.
have fun guys. i know you will
October 28, 2009 at 12:50 am #158354Hey Moto
I will have a jerry can of unmixed 98fuel with a 1 litre container hidden at spot X. So if anybody needs to spill a couple of litres in, it will be measured accuratelyAs Axel said the oil will be up to you to organise :ohmy:
You may get round the loop without refueling, I think tf2 does.
Yes take some extra fuel to leave at the car for the first little warm up loop which runs for about 15kms:)
Cheers
MurphOctober 28, 2009 at 12:51 am #158364Cheers Champo
I’ll remove you from the list
Have a good one :woohoo:
MurphOctober 28, 2009 at 1:19 am #157278hey moto i’ve been doin the premix thing for years. you should be able to do the same distance as murph on his 4 banger before refuelin. i carry a bit of oil and one of those big syringes that ya get from the chemist. i think they hold 100-120mls.
if i’m on me own at the servo i turn me petrol off and just fill up keepin an eye on the litres and makin sure i leave a bit of room for the required amount of oil. then i just put the oil in and shake the shit out the bike before turnin the petrol back on.
i run my 08 300 at 50:1 as that’s what Cessnock ktm recommended when i bought it. athough he did say that ya could run en as lean as 80-90:1 if needed.
50:1 seems to work for me. i run everythin stock aswell with the mapping switch wich i muck around with on hills a bit.
i have loaded up one plug but that was more to do with me just being absolutly rooted in some tight shit and not being able to open it up and clean it out.
so i always carry a plug cause once they shit emselves the’re pretty f**ked.
have a good oneOctober 28, 2009 at 1:20 am #158355Moto wrote:
Quote:WHy not 60:1 Axel? That’s what the manual recommends. Do they run better at 50:1 or is it just peace of mind for you?I think I’ll get about 100Km’s from the standard tank before hitting reserve….
I have traveled 130km on my ’08 without hitting reserve on a ride recently. Mind you, were were riding “cautiously”.
I will bet that a new bike like yours that isn’t fully loosened up will drink fuel like crazy. Be aware of that.The mixture ratio for 300s is not a real debate anymore. Sure you can run 60:1 as the manual says but I only stand by 2 reasons not to:
1) No one I know will run 60:1. They have their own reasons. The KTMTalk guys also don’t recommend 60.
2) I read in recent months a KTMTalk forum member actually went to the effort to test 40/50/60. Hi comments went like this: 60:1 dry crank and big end bearings, 50:1 was nice oily coating/residue and 40:1 more oily again.As you may have gathered with KTM manuals over the years they like to make money. Their recommended maintenance schedules are crazy unless you ware a full time Pro racer. I believe the 60:1 ratio although probably quite safe for a racer rebuilding bottom ends twice a year… being trailriders and not wanting to touch a bottom end as long as live, will prefer a little more oil. It’s stuff all more anyway when you look at it.
Sorry to Tbone the thread everyone
Carry on.
October 28, 2009 at 5:46 am #158368
AnonymousOk I need to go find me a little container for the ride. 50:1 sounds good, easier to mix in ratio too, so i’ll give that a go. When I ran 40:1 in the little 200 it ran crap and kept fouling plugs. Running it at 50:1 was heaps better and tehn it went better again when I ran a hotter plug.
October 28, 2009 at 5:52 am #158393Im with Axel on that one as well Moto, I try and run 40:1 but I use a semi synthetic not full synthetic.
Ollie
October 28, 2009 at 7:43 am #157279Hey there smurf moto,
Can u cater for a couple more sydney bulls on sat as we were planning to come ufor a ride anyway. There will be me Jasper,husky510+brother,stacker+ mate.
Holeshot
October 28, 2009 at 8:04 am #158407
AnonymousShouldn’t be a problem mate but it’s murph’s ride and he is leading so really it’s down to him
Be nice to see you out on the trails again though mate…there will be some tricky hills knocking around
October 28, 2009 at 8:06 am #158412Make sure you carry a spark plug now days Moto being on a two smoker and all
TB
October 28, 2009 at 9:07 am #158413Yeh, it will be nice to be at there.
With all the muscle on the ride im sure we’ll get the olgirl up there.forgotton how to use the smilely faces
October 28, 2009 at 10:44 am #157280Hope you guys don’t ride big heavy bikes up those hills
I remember not so long ago trying to ride one of those KTM 990 whatever the are up a hill at Lithgow, faaaaaar out man.
If it weighs more than 110kg your riding it up yourself harhar cough coughOctober 28, 2009 at 2:48 pm #158365Murph the surf wrote:
Quote:Hey Moto
I will have a jerry can of unmixed 98fuel with a 1 litre container hidden at spot X. So if anybody needs to spill a couple of litres in, it will be measured accurately …………. Yes take some extra fuel to leave at the car for the first little warm up loop which runs for about 15kms:)
Cheers
MurphI’m not sure about how many km’s we are talking or even how many I can go on my tank, but I will refuel after the warm up loop, and I’m pretty sure I’ll be wanting prob 4-5L somewhere on track. Haven’t had the bike for long and hard to judge fuel level (odd shape tank).
Will u have enough for me to buy off you or can you dump some somewhere for me if I bring extra in a jerry?
And I’m now a definate
October 28, 2009 at 9:09 pm #158445Seeys Saturday Holeshot and fiends
Good to see a some more four strokes as I thought there was only going to be 2 or 3 of us
Hey Ripnshred
I’m riding a pretty thirsty 525 and I usually switch to reserve for the last couple of kms. I’m thinking you should be good for at least the same range :blink: My bike needs reserve after 70 to 80kms. May have to put a couple of jerry cans at spot X and take a couple of gold coin donations from those who want spill a couple of litres in their tanks???Revised list
Wikdbeemer ?
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