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    Matt Baker
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    I have a problem with my front wheel bearings (Husaberg/KTM), there is some play there so I replaced the bearings, still play, replaced spacers, still has some play. Thought the axle might have been worn but its not. The problem is the wheel bearing is loose in the hub. I assume the bearing must have seized up and spun inside the hub causing some wear.

    Aside from replacing the hub what are my options? Could a good machine shop weld inside the hub and then machine it back out to spec?

    #232056

    Greg
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    You can have the hub machined out LC and then have a steel sleeve pressed in to restore it to the orginal OD thus restoring the size and you can keep using standard size bearings

    I have had it done, the last one Mick had machined for me in Wauchope, it was a rear and the machine shop had a lathe bed big enough so the wheel didnt have to be stripped.

    Will find you some pictures if I can

    TB

    #232057

    David Mason
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    I once had a front oil seal in a diff go loose and the Mech was able to shim it out with a kit he had from a bearing shop.

    A machine shop may be able to machine it out to fit a bearing with a larger OD.

    That is if you can get a bearing with the same ID and slightly larger OD.

    Food for thought.

    #232060

    Matt Baker
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    Not sure machining it out would be a good idea or even doable, they have a large bearing and there is not much meat on the hub to machine away, only about 4 – 5 mm thick.

    I guess I will have to take it to pieces and get a machine shop to check it out.

    Probably be easier and almost cheaper to buy some second hand or new wheels.

    #232058

    Hi LC4,
    there are some really good Loctite bearing retaining compounds that will take up the difference up to around 1.5mm in diameter. You can use 603 or 609 Loctite for the job. :)
    Judt make sure that is is really clean before you apply it , there is a proper cleaner/primer but brake clean will do the trick.

    The hub could be welded and re machined but that probably wouldn’t be much cheaper than a new hub if at all. :(

    #232061

    Matt Baker
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    Good idea Trailraider, didn’t even think about the Loctite bearing retainer, I’ll try that before I do anything else.

    #232062

    Adam Rodgers
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    Trailraider wrote:
    Hi LC4,
    there are some really good Loctite bearing retaining compounds that will take up the difference up to around 1.5mm in diameter. You can use 603 or 609 Loctite for the job. :)
    Judt make sure that is is really clean before you apply it , there is a proper cleaner/primer but brake clean will do the trick.

    The hub could be welded and re machined but that probably wouldn’t be much cheaper than a new hub if at all. :(

    Plus 1 on this idea. Done this on many a machine to get them going ;)

    If there is a fair bit of gap a trick is to centre pop the inside of the hub where the bearing sits. This swells the metal around the pop mark. If you do 4 pops @ 90 degrees to each other you will maintain centre for the bearing and the loctite will do the rest.

    Adam.

    #232063

    Greg
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    adam wrote:
    Plus 1 on this idea. Done this on many a machine to get them going ;)

    Adam.

    I have as well to get a bike going for a weekend etc and the loctite will work well but it is only a temp fix to be honest. Loctite is good we use it everyday but its its only patching something really :dry: If it wasnt temp Burg would just machine it to somewhere close and tell you to use loctite rather than work to fine tolerances. I loctite mine in my hubs from new using the retaining compound 603 (I think) I do it to keep the bearing tight and reduce the chances of the bearing working in the soft alloy hub holding it snug.

    The hub I had machined was only $60 sleeved and done, still going today. If you have to buy a new hub spend the money and get a billet hub much stronger ;) There are some good deals on wheel sets going at the moment. I think as well Sutto’s had or are having a sale on wheel sets with billet hubs?

    TB

    #232065

    alan
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    Tech help thread rocket
    1 simple rule in this forum
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    #232066

    TheBoss
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    rocket your post has been deleted
    Tech help thread rocket
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    #232067

    Matt Baker
    Member

    Thanks everyone for their ideas.

    I just fixed it, all I needed was a few hours at work to think about it, luckily I get plenty of time to sit around and think at work :laugh:

    Bob gave me the idea of going to the bearing shop and getting some shimming steel, but my thinking came up with using pieces of feeler gauges, so I cut up a feeler gauge (0.10mm), all it took was 3 pieces jammed in between the bearing and hub and its tight as a nuns nasty :)

    If it flogs out again I’ll just use more pieces of feeler gauge or some thicker gauge. Pretty bodgy but bodgy is my middle name. ;)

    #232059

    Bob Dowsett
    Member

    You know what size to ask for now

    #232087

    Matt Baker
    Member

    On a side note if anyone needs a front wheel pulled off and put back on I’m your man, I’ve had that f#@ker on and off a thousand times today :laugh: :laugh: 👿

    #232089

    Steve Wyeth
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    It would hurt to ask a bearing shop what bearings they can get in. The KTM?Berg use a fairly stock size bearing so I wouldn’t be surprised if you can get a new bearing with slightly larger OD that will only require a quick machining of the hub. It won’t cost much and is fairly straight forward to do. As TB suggested, if you go to a place with a big enough lathe they can do it with the wheel in tact.

    Shimming is a fuck around and will have you buying a feeler guage set everytime you do wheel bearings :D Do it properly you tight arsed bastard!!

    #232093

    Matt Baker
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    moto wrote:
    It would hurt to ask a bearing shop what bearings they can get in. The KTM?Berg use a fairly stock size bearing so I wouldn’t be surprised if you can get a new bearing with slightly larger OD that will only require a quick machining of the hub. It won’t cost much and is fairly straight forward to do. As TB suggested, if you go to a place with a big enough lathe they can do it with the wheel in tact.

    Shimming is a fuck around and will have you buying a feeler guage set everytime you do wheel bearings :D Do it properly you tight arsed bastard!!

    NO!

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