WILBERS SUSPENSION

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    Spotted a DR650 today with a Wilbers rear shock fitted , very trick looking and after a little research I found they are very expensive. Anyone had any experience with a Wilbers?

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    Greg
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    Nick?

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    Nick Dole
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    :woohoo: Rant warning :woohoo:

    I just had another DR650 junkie banging on my door at 1.30pm on a saturday afternoon, trying to fit the DRZ400 shock. I’m trying to build the engine for the truck but i give up. Instead i will rant forth and hopefully be informative along the way.

    There are two parts to the Wilbers DR650 story. lets deal with Wilbers first.
    Benny Wilber operates his business in what i refer to as the “golden triangle”. It’s an area to the west of Amsterdam, he’s just over the German border so he’s more Dutch than German. In that same area is Hyperpro, Reiger, Technoflex (now gone i think) ,the former mass of WP employees and Yacugar. There is also a LOT of old sublet WP manufactures that make springs, CNC machine shops, foundries.

    The story goes that the owner of Hyperpro and Benny Wilbers were good mates until they decided to try a spot of wife swapping. This went OK until old mate Hyperpro’s wife decided she liked German sausage more and dumped her husband for Benny. It’s not hard to see Benny is fond of women, a quick look at any of his advertising material shows busty Frauleins in nurses uniforms doing suggestive actions with a Wilbers shock.

    What this all means is that any of the shocks from this “golden triangle” have common parts, they are all very close in design and pricing. Unsurprisingly. The Wilbers look the best with black shock bodies, blue springs and red adjusters.

    Since Greg at ASR Suspension in Victoria died of cancer last year we have not had a dedicated Wilbers importer. There are state distributors that order shocks for customers. I have the NSW one very close to me, some of the know him. It’s not uncommon for him to walk in my door, explain he’s ordered a factory custom Wilbers shock but the spring rate is wrong or the length is wrong or it just doesn’t fit. It was a Tenere 660 Wilbers last week. Was supposed to be 10mm longer but the factory made it 10mm shorter. How do i know? I print out an Ohlins specification card when he brings the Wilbers in so i can check it.

    Now, all this says to me “why the hell would you buy a Wilbers when they can’t get it right most of the time and the Ohlins product is better and the same price” I have no idea. It gobsmacks me. Must be the red knobs, red lipstiock and nurses uniform.

    “But” i hear you say, Ohlins has discontinued the DR650 shock so you HAVE to buy a Wilbers. Bullshit. :P Ohlins do not assemble the shock any more, however they still make all the parts. I order every part in, about 60 of them, build the shock. I’ve been doing that for a while, about 15 years now. The OZ Ohlins distributor won’t let everyone do it as there has to be warranty and he has to tell the factory in Sweden we are building shocks.
    Interestingly i’m not authorized to SERVICE Wilbers shocks, they want me to fly to Germany for a week to be trained to service their shocks. I’ve declined. I still service them and still get in trouble. Wilbers give a 5 year warranty BUT only if you service the shock annually. You have to pay for the service too. :whistle:

    Now. DR650 shock conversions.
    WHY?!
    Why do you have to have a rebound adjuster? No one uses the bloody thing anyway. Race Tech make a shaft assembly with a rebound adjuster and a “world famous gold valve” that only costs you $800 installed with a spring, I do a rebound/compression adjustable (piggyback) Ohlins with whatever spring you need in whatever length you want for $1350.
    OR you can just get me to revalve the stock 40mm KYB shock with our valving and spring PLUS the forks with springs and Emulators for $750. The DR is a, ahem “LOW COST” trailbike. (Thanks for telling me to stop saying cheap TB)
    So, by all means spend $1800 on a Wilbers for your DR650. I will LAUGH when old mate walks in with it and asks me to sort it out before he sends it to you.

    Rant over. Back to work. Truck engine building halted :sick: have too much other work on. Damn.

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    Appreciate the response Nick, the wife swapping part was an interesting touch too.
    Mate, all you need to have said was don’t touch em with a preverbal barge pole and I’d have taken your word for it… :) I’ll let the customer down gently next time he’s in.
    cheers
    Protty

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    Nick Dole
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    Hey, it’s you, Protty!

    Wilbers are not a bad shock. They are very similar to Ohlins but without the R&D that goes into an Ohlins.
    Their advantage is they custom build. This is also a disadvantage, it’s a bit hit and miss.
    If your customer loves it, that’s great.
    If he wants another one, get an Ohlins.

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    The customer is always right, right? All good mate, he was just singing it’s praises and I’d not seen one. I’m a firm believer that you can’t make a silk purse out of a sows ear, not that the mighty DR650 is a sows ear by any means but you get my drift. I must be getting old, listen to me defending a DR650…
    cheers mate, great story too, I’ve often wondered how wife swapping works out in the end. I swapped mine years ago and will now live happily ever after.
    Protty

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