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August 22, 2009 at 11:50 pm #97046
G,Day OBT’s
Was reading the update on the RMX450 coming out and it mentioned Suzuki will monitor interest to see if they should ADR one for the following year.
Just wondering would the DRZ owners look at swapping onto the new RMX or would you already have done that on another brand if you wanted a higher maintanence bike?
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August 22, 2009 at 11:57 pm #149608Ex-DRZ rider here. I went the way of a WR250F and love it, but have a soft spot for Suzi’s. If they make an equivalent bike to the WR450F or WR250F (benchmark bikes in my opinin) then yes, I would definately consider one. I would prefer a 250 to a 450, but would probably give a 450 a run if there was no 250 in production.
August 23, 2009 at 12:30 am #149612You touched on it twobanger no ADR, which d*#khead at Suzuki made that decision needs sacking because they have no idea about the Australian market our wants or needs. Sack em NOW!!!!
Shame Suzuki Shame :angry: :angry:
TB
August 23, 2009 at 12:54 am #149613Trailboss wrote:
Quote:You touched on it twobanger no ADR, which d*#khead at Suzuki made that decision needs sacking because they have no idea about the Australian market our wants or needs. Sack em NOW!!!!Shame Suzuki Shame :angry: :angry:
TB
Fair call that. Suzuki have missed the boat bigtime on an ADR’d hi-po 4 stroke. Now they have to enter a tough market from scratch. If they had just kept upgrading the DRZ in line with current technology they would be sitting pretty at the moment. Given the huge investment to ADR an RMZ or equivalent, I doubt it will happen in the next little while. Silly move by Suzi.
Of course, at the moment they sell a truckload of DRZ’s CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP so why change? Its CRAZY CRAZY CRAZY at the DRZ sale, no offer will be refused! All stock must go, so that they can make one with different coloured plastics (again) and Bold New Graphics!
August 23, 2009 at 12:54 am #149614Australia would be such a small percentage of Suzuki worldwide sales i dont think they would be worried what a handfull of guys on old bulls want:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
August 23, 2009 at 1:05 am #149615Adrian wrote:
Quote:Australia would be such a small percentage of Suzuki worldwide sales i dont think they would be worried what a handfull of guys on old bulls want:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:Ok, but how about worldwide, where the DRZ will no longer meet emission standards? They have to upgrade sooner or later, but they have foolishly chosen to offset the cost to a later date. In the meantime they are flogging off the outdated DRZ and equally outdated DR650 to a market being offered more and more hi-po, high quality offroaders that come complete with ADR. Yes, you pay more for a modern bike, but 90% of people are willing to do just that to have a more modern, powerful, better designed bike (with modern suspension that can handle a rider who weighs more than 50kg…).
I loved my DRZ but will not go back now that I have seen what the others have to offer. Not until they make an equivalent to the WRF anyway.
August 23, 2009 at 1:23 am #149616Its horses for courses some people would rather spend 8 grand on a brand new DRZ than the same amount on a second hand bike,My brother had a 2000 model drz and traded it on a crf and hated the honda.I suppose it comes down to the individual.
August 23, 2009 at 1:47 am #149617Take Chop for example, he had a CRF450 (same as the RMZ or whatever it is) that he was in constant fear of and never enjoyed riding. He replaced it with a DRZ 400 and is happy as Larry
There is a fair percentage of trail riders that would be happier day to day with a DR then a performance based high maintenance RMZ for many of reasons
TB
August 23, 2009 at 1:55 am #149618Adrian wrote:
Quote:Its horses for courses some people would rather spend 8 grand on a brand new DRZ than the same amount on a second hand bike,My brother had a 2000 model drz and traded it on a crf and hated the honda.I suppose it comes down to the individual.Exactly. and thats why they sell so many. they have a bike which has a large sale footprint because of their known durability. they arent Brilliant at anyone thing but are very capable in all things. Bit like my Husky..it doesnt excel at any one point but does real well over most bases. I cant see Suzuki changing too much with the DRZ..not until sales fail.
August 23, 2009 at 2:26 am #149609yep good points fellas,
The article i was reading hinted that Suzuki are looking at ADR, so i guess its similar to the KLX 450.
Maybe they should get the RMX frame and drop in the DRZ motor and call it the DRMX :laugh: and make it priced between the drz and rm and maybe you could have the best of both worlds.
Yes i am on drugs sitting at home with swine flu :laugh:
August 23, 2009 at 2:43 am #149621I for one would love a lighter version of the DRZ but even with ADR’s the new RMX will not be that bike. The RMX will be like all the other 450’s on the market, great race bikes, good trail bikes, but they come at a cost, both up front and ongoing.
When I bought the DRZ they was at least 8 different 450’s on the market but I still opted for the DRZ. Cost was a big factor as I just can’t bring myself to buy a second hand bike. Reliability was another factor I considered as well as the ability to use it for on road duties when needed (which happened when my car got written off and the DRZ was my only transport for 6 weeks).
Bottom line is I didn’t buy the DRZ because it was a Suzuki, Im not one of those blind brand loyalty fools, I brought it cause it suited all my needs better than any other bike on the market at the time but at a better price.
If I was in the market for a more hard core bike and it was ADRed I would certainly look at the RMX along with all the other models on the market and buy the one I got the best deal on.
August 23, 2009 at 2:57 am #149622Scotty wrote:
Quote:I for one would love a lighter version of the DRZ but even with ADR’s the new RMX will not be that bike. The RMX will be like all the other 450’s on the market, great race bikes, good trail bikes, but they come at a cost, both up front and ongoing.When I bought the DRZ they was at least 8 different 450’s on the market but I still opted for the DRZ. Cost was a big factor as I just can’t bring myself to buy a second hand bike. Reliability was another factor I considered as well as the ability to use it for on road duties when needed (which happened when my car got written off and the DRZ was my only transport for 6 weeks).
Bottom line is I didn’t buy the DRZ because it was a Suzuki, Im not one of those blind brand loyalty fools, I brought it cause it suited all my needs better than any other bike on the market at the time but at a better price.
If I was in the market for a more hard core bike and it was ADRed I would certainly look at the RMX along with all the other models on the market and buy the one I got the best deal on.
Well put Scott, I feel exactly the same with my XR, I would buy another brand next as its the bike that would suit my needs for all sorts of riding and I cant get another XR in any brand
It has just happened the last 5 bikes or so have been Honda but I have owned every jap brand, a KTM, and I rode a sponsored ride on a Maico for some races in the late 80’s pony expresses, and some short circuit meetings (first of the
alpha 1 suspension)Unless a new model comes out my next wont be a Honda and I can live with that it has to be a bike that suits my needs
TB
August 23, 2009 at 2:59 am #149623I dunno Scotty, about the price thing in particular. You have to do a lot to a banana to make it good to ride and it all costs money, wheras most of the others are much closer to the mark. I admit, there is no such thing as a bike ready to ride straight out of the box, but a lot of them come close. Just thinking about what I put on my banana that came standard on the WRF – barkies, bashplate, small blinkers, lighter headlight (although I didn’t get the smaller version, razzm frazzm). And suspension mods, well they are not free on any bike, but I have decided that the WRF is close enough to right that I don’t have to spend anything on the suspenders, while the banana absolutely needed some attention.
It is horses for courses, but I think Suzuki are doing themselves and any potential customers a disservice by not offering a real competitor for the class leaders – whoever they may be! There is no reason they would have to stop selling DRZ’s to do that.
But, after all that, what bikes finished the Safari with bugger-all work? Banana’s, Huskies and old LC4 KTM’s. Results that speak for themselves!
August 23, 2009 at 3:21 am #149627I’d have to say that it’s only the true Suzuki loyalists that might feel left out, like Scotty I bought mine based on price, reliability reputation and of course the low maintenance factor. If I go to a more performance based bike (which I am considering) the brand is less important than the initial price and running/maintenance costs.
August 23, 2009 at 3:23 am #149628Yeah Ecks I have spent money on the DRZ but I got it for $4000 dollars less than all the 450’s I looked at and the work ive done to it is stuff I would also have done to them. Suspension work is top of the list for any bike I own. The rest is mainly protection stuff that none of the other bikes I looked at came with either. As for the RMX top off the list wound be a new tank, 6L may be ok for MX but in the bush? Money wise I am still a long way in front.
The only thing I would change on the DRZ if I had the chance would be less weight but to tell you the truth I don’t even notice it any more. It has enough power to ride the pace I do as Im past trying to go faster.
If you ride a wide range of trails from singles to wide open fire trails and the odd bit of road, any bike you buy will be a trade off somewhere.
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