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Trailboss wrote:For all those interested if the price is right when I go to the supplier and say I want best price on 14 braces and 3 pull out later because they were only interested it will affect everyone’s price.
If you have decided you want a set of braces you want a set of braces, I would be interested in a Porsche but I won’t get one :laugh: . You can be assured the price I will get will be the best for a bulk buy in Aus. Yes you may buy one pair every now and again cheaper on eBay maybe and if that interests you now you should do that but it won’t help everybody else and I doubt you will get cheaper anyway. The more in this the cheaper it will beYou have no commitment to buy until I have prices for the two different braces listed above so post what you want and your size
TB
I get what you are saying TB, but on the other side of that coin, you as asking for a commitment to purchase what may potentially be a Porsche without a pricetag. Once people know a price things will sort themselves out.
Just from my point of view, when I say I am interested, my sock under the bed is only so big! I have most of the retail price set aside right now, and could make up the difference, so one way or another I’ll be getting a set of braces. Not sure which model until prices come in, but most likely not the Ultra.
Interested at the right price, for sure. 40.5cm, say 16″ or XL
Google is a dangerous thing. Had a search and found this lot:
A Review of some knee braces: Here – Interesting that they comment “1. Anything is better than nothing.2. You really get what you pay for. Even the most expensive brace here is cheaper than the MRI you’ll need if you tweak your knee. Our experts also agreed that they would classify only three of the braces, the EVS Web, the Innovation Sports Morph and the Asterisk Cell, as true knee braces. The others are beefed-up knee pads with hinges on them.”
That said, there was no consideration of the CTi braces.
EVS-WEB-KNEE-BRACE – Similar price to Asterisk and reasonable reviews. Still, in this price range I think the Asterisk have the nod based on TB and others feedback.
SIX SIX ONE-CYCLONE-WIRED-KNEE-BRACES – A glorified knee guard only, not a true ortho protective brace. In terms of knee guards, these are ridiculously expensive.
EVS-SX01-KNEE-BRACE – Cheap and cheery, probably better than a normal knee guard, but you get what you pay for.
EVS-SX02-Knee-Brace – As with the SX1, this is a cheap version of a brace, offering minimal protection for hyperextension and other twisting injuries.
SIX SIX ONE-MX3-CAMBER-KNEE-BRACES Cheap and cheery again, aluminium construction and poor strapping, combined with bad reviews on durability.
EVS-RS8-PRO-KNEE-BRACES – And I quote“A knee brace that doesn’t have the weight or bulk of medical-grade knee braces, but is stronger than a shin guard“.
PODMX-K300-KNEE-BRACE – A true medical grade brace with quality components (as much as any braces have). Reasonable value. “The Pod MX K300 is worthy of a much higher price tag for the value that it offers. The hinge is a work of art, and the brace is quite comfortable. The frame is also light and durable.” From here
PODMX-K700-KNEE-BRACE – Holy crap, $1100! Yeah, but this is the real deal by all accounts. And yes, you can get them cheaper if you shop around. “Head-to-head against the most popular high-end knee braces, the PodMX K700 is a clear winner. It offers high-tech design, innovation and, best of all, it doesn’t even feel like you are wearing a knee brace. Oddly enough, head-to-head against the original PodMX brace, it isn’t such a clear-cut winner because Pod had it right from the beginning.” from Here
EVS-Axis-Pro-Knee-Brace – “EVS has defiantly elevated their game with the AXIS Knee Brace. If you are a serious racer or just a trail rider and want to protect your knees, the EVS AXIS Knee braces are well worth the investment.” From herehere
… and that’s just scratching the surface! Holy cow!!
Can’t really compare these pros to what most trail hacks do on weekends though. The fastest trail rider may still not be a decent racer, it is a mindset as much as anything else. It depends what you want from your riding. Me, I’m a surveyor, and a pretty good one if I do say so myself. I’d like to see how any of the top 15 riders in the A4DE go when handed a reflectorless total station and a hand-held disto laser measurer – but then again, my riding is about equivalent to their surveying skills.
I think most trail riders ride for fun. When it is a way to make a living, or even just as all-encompassing as being in the top 15 A4DE riders, the fun factor takes a back seat to the professional rider inside.
In my opinion, trail riders should ride the bike that gives them the biggest stiffy. Pros, well they can ride whatever they bloody well like!
For me, a 250F is the go, but many others prefer a 300 2T, or a 450F, or a 390F or… well the list goes on. Size of the bike isn’t the main factor for trail riders, it is all about the size of the stiffy! :silly: 👿
white rocket wrote:just let us no when your in dubbo next will be away this weekend butWent through twice yesterday and twice today, working in Narromine and Trangie! Will get in touch when I am there next. Thanks mate! Want to PM me your number?
white rocket wrote:i got some evs ones going cheap(braces) if you want them i hate them have only worn them a couple of timesMight have a try of them if that’s OK Al? Just to see what they are like?
Bloody hell. Yeah thanks you lot for putting the wind up me! :ohmy:
Might get Mrs ECKS to check what is covered under the health insurance – if anything! :blink:
Trailboss wrote:ECKS-Man wrote:Teach me oh learned ones!:laugh:
Sorry ECKS but there are a few here that have learned the hard way lately. I know you said no braces but here is my spin its a subject close to my heart :whistle:
….TB
Thanks TR and TB, good info there. Only a fool doesn’t listen to good advice. So: What do people pay for knee braces? I know every man and his dog reckons their brand is the best, makes it hard to work out what to look at. Don’t want to fork out the big dollars for a glorified knee brace, but don’t have the dollars to spend on the likes of CTI braces etc.
I’ve had a blown PCL (posterior cruciate ligament) for years and years, result of a bike crash as a teenager, but the doc has said my muscles have held everything together. Most unusual he said! I’m not keen to make it worse though!
axel wrote:Good stuff Ecks. Glad you enjoyed your weekend! You did well considering you haven’t rode that sort of terrain for a long time. Hope to see the little banana out more in future.Shame you missed out mate, you’d have really enjoyed it, particularly the Ben Bullen loop!
Thanks JTB!
Cheers Mal, will have to catch up for a ride again one day!
Nope Eags, not my mate! The pics came out well, not sure what I did differently but I like them! Helps the story a lot to have some good pictures, although I wish (now) I had taken more in the less spectacular places, you know, the bracken fern filled gullies or the fallen trees we had to manhandle the bikes over. Oh well, it is an excuse to go back!
Scotty wrote:Nice work Ecks. There is some fun and tough stuff in that Ben Bullen area. Nothing the little DRZ cant handle, the rider on the other hand… :laugh: :laugh: :laugh::laugh: :laugh:
Yeah, I’ve not spent any time in the area before, but have ridden Clarence area a bit. Ben Bullen is a bit harder from what I’ve seen, although maybe we picked the harder tracks. :unsure:
The bike is a pearler, it would surprise a lot of people how good it actually is. I was surprised at how it would hook up at the rear wheel and pop the front in the air on hill climbs. My WR250F would have spun the rear wheel in the same situation. Might be a suspension thing too, this RG3 stuff is unreal.
Regardless, I’m glad I have this bike. It can sit in the shed until I need it next, then I’ll drag it out and flog it around the hills again. No fuss, no bother!
Trailraider wrote:Nice one ECKS, looks like you had a blastIt was a cracking ride, excellent pace. My mate reckons if we had been in a group we’d have been held up. It wasn’t always fun if I am honest, and there may have been a swear or two on occasion! All in all though, I had a great day!
Ollie wrote:good report Ecks! nice to get out now and then ehollie
You’re not wrong Ollie, don’t get out often so when I do it is nice to make it worthwhile!
After a night in Wallerawang including several beers
we planned to hit the Ben Bullen area on Sunday. My mate had a loop which he had ridden before and it was supposed to be a tough ride.
Here’s a photo that I like from the ride:
We headed into the hills and 4km in I was thinking: “How long is this bloody loop?”
Wow, it was tight single, linked in places by some fire trails. Hills that went up up up and just when you thought you’d need an oxygen tank, they went up some more! Downhills that had drops which were just not suited to the (relatively) low clearance of the DRZ, a couple of them caught me and one case-out had me over the side and into the bracken ferns! Climbs up rock faces (some would say “cliffs”) and over logs (I hate logs, although I am better at them after yesterday’s practice!).
This cliff face was a scary prospect, didn’t help that just before it my mate had stopped on a hill in front of me and I had a hell of a time getting moving again, so by the time this thing appeared in front of me I was shattered!
Still, made it up no prob after I took 2 minutes to catch my breath. Here’s one from the top looking back…
Look over the left handlebar and you can see the track in the background!
Bugger me, the first part was OK, but at the tree the track had a lot of exposed and slippery roots.. thanks to some assistance, both bikes made it to the top:
Oh, we got one of us with the bikes here too!
And looking back down the track:
This set the scene for the rest of the loop, and both of us were feeling the pinch!
At one stage the track disappeared and we ended up bush-bashing through the scrub on the side of a cliff until we were able to find the track again. Scary stuff, my back wheel dropped into a gully and I had to skull-drag the bike out. That sucked!
When we got back on the track, we went up, up, up, up… then up and onto a hill:
And then followed the track over, around, through and even under some rock formations. Tested out the bash plate on the DRZ multiple times, actually I think it was multiple times per metre! Tough stuff! Finally we had one last climb up a rutted gap between two rock formations before the track led back down and we found our way back to the cars.
It was only 54km, but holy cow, one of the hardest rides I have ever done!
And the little DRZ held it’s own all weekend, the only limitation was the slightly lower clearance and the rider’s lack of ability! This thing went places no DRZ 250 was EVER meant to go! And the day after, I can still walk, which either says something about my fitness or the bike’s rideability!
ECKS rides again! Yeeehaa!!
So it took a 40th birthday and a surprise from my wife to get my shit sorted and get the bike registered, finally! Mrs ECKS arranged for me to have a weekend riding with a mate, but realised the bike was not registered and that this was beyond her ability to sort out, especially as a surprise. The jig was up, and she came clean, with a week to spare before I had to have the bike registered and trail ready! No pressure eh!
So it was back on with the ADR crap, blinkers, rear guard extender, etc etc. Tracked down a broken wire which was stopping the headlight from working and suddenly had a bike ready for rego. Booked it in with DIY Auto in Dubbo for Monday morning at 9:30. Rex at DIY Auto was great, although admittedly I probably made his job easy by presenting him with a stock bike to inspect. Sailed through inspection and bought some small blinkers as I headed home, paid for rego and got a plate.
It was a busy week, with work, band, kids etc, so didn’t get back to the bike until Friday night. I had a prioritised list which started at the back and worked forward. I made it as far as the seat, but at least the rear guard extender was sitting in a box, the number plate was on and the new small rear blinkers installed and working.
Loaded up Saturday morning and headed off to meet a mate for a riding weekend. We started with Sunny Corner. We had a GPX file of last year’s Rally loop as a guide.
We headed off and blasted through the northern loop. Bit disappointing how much fire trail was in it all actually. Anyway, a bad day riding beats a good day at work as they say! If nothing else, it was a good shakedown for the DRZ. The suspension is FANTASTIC plush and amazingly tractable with no chance of bottoming out at any point. And as you can see I’m not a little bloke! Can’t recommend Jay Foreman highly enough for Suzuki suspension!
Sunday’s ride to come…
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