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Moto wrote:
Quote:Stupid question ECKS but where the hell is it?The annual enduro/offroad race held at Condobolin.
Gaz
Moto wrote:
Quote:Insurance covers damage to you and your bike, and third party property. It doesn’t cover some mole face trying to sue you because he hit a log in your back yard and snapped his back in half.Apologie4s Moto as may7be my comment was a bit unclear.
The insurance point was more relating to the property insurance taken out by householders (third party) and not the insurance policy taken out to cover the motorcycle.
If the property has third party insurance then the landholder/owner wouldn’t be liable for all monies as that should be covered by insurance (but we all know about insurance companies).
As for waivers, while I do sign I do feel like others as well in that it is a kind of insult to my integrity, but if we have one tool who would sue than we all need to sign I suppose. And with regards to the waivers, when I was involved with the MCC they were discussed and the general consensus was that they would be useless if tested in a court (and this has been shown). Sorry if that dampens but the whole thing saddens me …………… damn lawyers.
Gaz
Ok, this may take the thread a little off topic and if so, then I apologise now, but man how sad is it that you even need to ask the question and think about whether it is worthwhile to invite people to your property (that is not having a go at you by the way).
Just as, how sad is it that people have to produce waiver forms and have them signed (not just OBT by the way)?
I really don’t enjoy this day and age in which we live where accidents can’t happen anymore as it is caused by someone or something and somehow people feel that money will miraculously make all the pain and suffering go away. We have become such a litigious society that simple tasks of mateship (such as you are offering) need to be weighed heavily between the fun times and the ‘what if something goes wrong’, is just sad IMO.
Personally I have been on a few rides where waivers were presented (all road rides) and it really does detract from teh atmosphere of the ride, but it can also remove the element that may well be the tye to have an incident that was never their fault (saw people leave one road ride because of teh waiver).
As an aside however, your insurance (don’t know how much, who with etc and do not need to) would cover any injury/accident wouldnt it and as such you personally would not be liable?
Gaz
Have to agree with the other comments in that anyone who injures themselves on your property can sue you for negligence or whatever, thus why you have your property insured for third party. But, I am not sure as to the ‘contributory negligence’ aspect in that is the degree lessenned by the activity being performed.
As for the forms, well I do know that all riders get told the same things at race meets yet I also know of riders launching action against race circuits and winning (road race).
With regards to the burglar issues, there have been a few from memory and the injured burglar either fell and was injured or was bashed (the pub one), so I assume that may have played a part in any payout.
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If you were looking at an OBT ride on your land you probably still could without issues but it comes down to mateship and the difference between an accident and pure negligence I suppose.Gaz
Trailboss wrote:
Quote:Looks good mate, I would have been up for that ride am just bumming around today now that things changed, PM me please in future and I will be in, LC4skin lives down you way and is always looking for a rideTB
Oops, sorry TB.
Will be heading back for a look to see if I can find that plane next weekend so will post it up in the ride gatherings.
Gaz
LC4skin wrote:
Quote:he is in wollongong, im not sure if he tried them but i have used them in the past and they are good.Another local ……………….. woooooohoooo.
And agreed, the old Greenslip King is good as each time I have used them I save.
Gaz
Whereabout is your cousin located?
I have a theory that says that there is a form of collusion between the insurers as the cheapest this year will generally be the dearest the next and so on until the cycle restarts. Thus each year I do my usual ring around or web check before I go to a mob called the Greenslip Kings and generally end up with something slightly cheaper that thee best quote I received (applies for car as well).
Garry
Trailboss wrote:
Quote:gco0307 wrote:Quote:Can I throw may hand up for part of the ride?Or specifically, any riding done on the Friday as I am already booked to go to Tarago for Saturday/Sunday and with Mittagong an hour away, a nice day ride owuld be fun.
Gaz
Its saturday and sunday Gaz, how does that work for you?
TB
Aw crap!
Saturday I am heading to Tarago and back Monday.
Dang it!
Ah well, another time.
Gaz
Can I throw may hand up for part of the ride?
Or specifically, any riding done on the Friday as I am already booked to go to Tarago for Saturday/Sunday and with Mittagong an hour away, a nice day ride owuld be fun.
Gaz
Ok, well that is a bigun.
Have you thought about removalists or trucking companies (just a thought)?
The reason I asked about the from/to was that I was thinking along the lines of seeing whether the locations fit into a race season and throw some dollars to one of the teams for the transport (some do it, some don’t), but the from/to in this case kinda rules that out. Sorry.
Will ask around though.
Gaz
I think that Adam ‘Krusty’ Ferguson also does moves and the business is something like ‘Ferguson Bike Movers’ or similar.
There are others around and as I find them I will post up for you is still required
As an aside, where is the bike and where is it going (could make a difference as there may be a few contacts that could be used).
Gaz
I reckon my system is the best.
I ride first, second and last performing the lead, fun and sweep duties.
Or maybe it’s because I am an unsociable, ugly, smelly, opinionated, arrogant, son-of-a-bitch, little fat bastard who nobody likes. :laugh:
Mind you, it doesn mean that when I get lost I can only blame myself and when things go right it is me again, but the best part is that the shouts in the pub afterwards are generally cheap.
Garry
Mr Blue wrote:
Quote:just a quick word of advice on helmet stickers gentlemens, make sure the adhesive is a neutral type that is not solvent based as what the chemicals can do to a helmet shell is scary in an accident, have seen perfect circles pop out after a blow in the shape of the sticker, you would’ve sworn a plasma cutter had been at work.BC
Great point.
Is it more worthwhile to place the ‘sticker’ on the bike/riders apparel somewhere?
Garry
chiefgili wrote:
Quote:i wouldnt mind getting my hands on a little 2 way also garry. 5 watt would be good for distance but but bilky and expensive. i dont know much about them, but definately would be a good idea on the trail. Have a look in outdoor mags, there is a little device called SPOT i think?! its like an epirb type thingy, but family/friends can track your progress via satellite, and has a bunch of features. Might be worth a look, just a thought.Have done some research on SPOT and know of at least one person who has it and yes it is very good in many regards (such as tracking your location etc), may even go this way yet to be honest.
Just thought I woudl ask about the UHF side though as they are a good safety item in that you can call for assistance which may not constitute a SPOT emergency whereby the emergency services woudl be called abd/or a search initiated (ie. should you have a mechanical as opposed to an accident).
May even end up with both yet, but first I need to find money
Garry
micknmeld wrote:
Quote:Is The “Waterboard land” a catchment for Warragamba Dam?Nah, Warrangamba is further west.
From memory this is more related to Woronora and Cataract dams plus there is some wilderness type of declaration as well (I think). But, where we were is all fire trail stuff although as mentioned surprisingly there are gates appearing.
Gaz
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