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Best do it quick, your ass looks big in that outfit…jussayin
I’m not for or against either 2t or 4t, just trying to dispel some of the non-truths. I had a 4 banger for 18 months, then a 2 banger for a bit over years and now a 4 banger again.
I stripped down a v-twin motor not so long ago having never done it before and was quite surprised at how easy it was. I think most of it is the fear of the unexpected, I was the same with forks for a while but could change both front fork seals and have the forks back in my bike in under 30 minutes on my Kato……man that was a good bike to work on!
Bert it’s in the Amamoor/Kenilworth area. I’d guess around 1-1.5 hours depending on where in West Brissie you live.
Keep an eye on the site I’m sure there will be other rides posted in this area and someone can show you around
razzle wrote:My two-cents worth having recently purchased a new 2T and the reason “why” …I actually mulled over the decision of “what” to buy for ages (brand and engine type), feeling like I was going against the norm for even considering a 2T. In the end it came down to:
1/ History: I grew up on them. Even though I owned a few 4T’s as well like XR200, 250 and 600
2/ Servicing and Repair: I can fix a 2T myself … I have no idea of all the bits in a 4T
3/ Cost of ownership: Saving money by fixing and servicing it myself
4/ The noise … love it! I’ve always considered the sound of a four-stroke a bit “putt-putt broom-broom”.
5/ The Warnings: I had soooo many friends that still ride (down VIC way) tell me how “highly tuned the 4T’s are these days”, and how “they have to be serviced often”, and stuff like that “if you drop one with the throttle stuck on full they’re likely to blow something” etc etc …. basically I thought “screw that, I’m gettting a two-stroke!”.2. If you can fix a 2t, you can fix a 4t (without going into pulling the whole engine down). The top ends have more parts and may take a smidge longer but for the amount of times you’d have to do it I reckon ot’s almost a moot point.
3. See above, for most day to day, even year to year stuff there isn’t any extra work between them. For every top end you do in a 2t you adjust the valves on the 4t.
4. Good point, a crisp 2t on song does awesome. Then again so does an angry four stroke to me when giving it some berries.
5. Bullshit. They are no more susceptible in this regard than any other bike. No bike is going to last very long if you keep getting the throttle stuck on full with no load on the motor. My 570 Berg runs a lower compression than my 300 2 stoke did, so the highly tuned bit is a bit unwarranted.
Either way, most modern bikes are pretty good, as much as we may pick the differences they generally are reliable, fast and trustworthy if properly maintained.
2t’s and carbies are much easier to work on though! The Berg is a pain in the ass, you have to take something off to get at, or adjust anything!
Trailboss wrote:And then sold itTB
And loving the Berg too! I do miss the 300 though and kinda regret selling it, I was going to keep it. I’ve had 3 bikes before though and I only ever ride the newest one, so I knew it would just sit there not being ridden like my 450 was when the 300 turned up.
The 4 banger motor is just plain easier to ride for gheylords who can’t ride though. If I was the fast racer type I’d be looking at a 250 smoker again, maybe even a CRF250 4 banger :ohmy:
The Contour’s white balance seems to be less accurate than the GoPro. STM’s comparitive vid between the two showed this too. Also, isn’t the top of the line COntour much more expensive than the HD Hero2?
He seems like a top bloke, even after TB was stalking him at the 2008 A4DE he had a chat. Not bad for someone just about to and put some smack down
Glad to see him back on the bike, he certainly is a tough cookie.
I reckon TB is right. As much as I’d like to say they don’t want to swallow their pride, I think if the market was there for them they’d bo onto it in a heartbeat.
On the flipside, the sport has opened up into other avenues and extreme enduro’s are becoming ever popular. In these events the 2 strokes still dominate, you only have to look at the line-up to see that. If it grows big enough in the US (the biggest global bike market for enduro/MX) then we may see Honda/Yamaha have a rethink.
They already have more adavnced two stroke technology, their interest is in four strokes though. Still, you can’t hide from the fact until recently, KTM’s best selling model has been the 300.I’ve been riding enduro for exactly 4 years and 10 days and in that time I’ve seen the number of 2 smokers on the trail significantly increase. I hated them………then bought one :ohmy:
July 25, 2012 at 1:00 pm in reply to: Now I can look cooler than KRAM and Moose with a dress on….. #226629axel wrote:I have some “go the rat” gear saved up for you Moto. Will go nice with your colour palet.That would finish my outfit off nicely! Maybe I should ask Geoff Ballard, he’s probably got loads of it stored up at home :laugh:
Eagle – I didn’t mention TB as he doesn’t look cool in a dress, he looks scary!
:laugh: :laugh:
Razzle – Nice helmet, I actually looked at the same one as I like the design….but I wanted a carbon lid.
July 24, 2012 at 7:12 pm in reply to: Now I can look cooler than KRAM and Moose with a dress on….. #226599Wow, that’s a good price. I might have to buy a spare
Don’t know about the tyre? It was someone who owns a shop or something, don’t think it was the APC Rally guy. He was relatively outspoken at most of the auctions. Ahhhh, it was Mal who introduced me, not you, I remember now, I’ll PM Mal and ask.
July 24, 2012 at 6:11 pm in reply to: Now I can look cooler than KRAM and Moose with a dress on….. #226597I don’t mind that either. I did look at the Bell helmets. Is it a moto-9? I wanted something light and the TLD is 1.4Kg but if you buy the European CE rated version it’s 1.1Kg…..go figure?
PS:- Who was it I was speaking to at Sunny Corner about getting some Kenda tyres? I want a phat ass Washougal for the Berger…….
EDIT: I had a Yamaha TY250 pinky back in the day
July 24, 2012 at 5:49 pm in reply to: Now I can look cooler than KRAM and Moose with a dress on….. #226594Trailboss wrote:I like itTB
I wondered if you might. I was close to buying the same FMF as you had until I saw you in it at Coffs last year, so I decided to keep using my current TLD helemt until I found a replacement.
I really wanted the Steve McQueen replica but only for show in the garage, not to wear.
July 24, 2012 at 4:24 pm in reply to: Now I can look cooler than KRAM and Moose with a dress on….. #226588
See, I wasn’t joking :woohoo:
July 24, 2012 at 4:17 pm in reply to: Now I can look cooler than KRAM and Moose with a dress on….. #226587I’m scared
Not sure. I think Ossa will come under the Gas Gas wing shortly.
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