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Up here on the border the biggest issue we face is the queenslanders. Now not having a go at queenslanders in general, but because the minority of whackers has stuffed a heap of their SE QLD riding spots up they just hop down over the border. With the bypasses and upgraded Hwy Brisbane to one of the better riding spots is around 1&1/2 hours to 2 hrs, park just off the side of the hwy and go. Now I don’t know what it is with interstate visitors (we do it too, we’ve all witnessed it) but it’s like the state laws don’t apply, so some of these blokes just go feral, they ride likes it’s a sprint enduro event, firetrails on the wrong side, blocked off trails in N/parks get the blockades bypassed and torn up. Now talking with one of my remaining SFNSW feild officer mates, he knows exactly where these people are from, but concedes that they are ruining it for all of us, including the two blokes he works with who are keen riders as well. Our response, like TB we don’t ride there anymore even though i know it like the back of my hand, it’s just too dangerous, so we ride more remote and out of the way now. The forestry feild officers have even spoken to me down the street and asked me to yell at them if we spot anything untoward out there like illegal doof parties or illegal logging (it happens a fair bit round here)
I think the answer is in organising ourselves, I have been trying to convince (without being preachy and obnoxious) my non-rego mates to buy WRs, and the likes so they can go enduro racing with me or even just ride close to home on summer friday arvos, it must be slowly working cause there’s only a couple of diehards left, but to give them dues, they grew up were they ride and have been doing it since kids without problems, so it can be difficult to convince them. On illegal track cutting I never personally cut a track unless I know it was an old access road, which are easy to spot because of the regrowth and higher proportion of undergrowth as a rule of thumb. Again if it’s gazetted it is and will be until further notice.Organising ourselves into a political voice is the key, unfortunately that means someone has to give afair portion of their lives for the greater good of the rest of us.
micknmeld wrote:
Quote:¬Embargoed for publication and broadcast Wednesday 26 May 2010Opening-New push to improve trail bike behaviour
Supporting statement-Land managers on the North Coast are launching a public education campaign aimed at reducing illegal motorbike use on public land.
They include the National Parks and Wildlife Service, Forests NSW, Department of Premier and Cabinet and NSW Police.“Responsible motorbike riders are welcome on public lands,” said campaign spokesman David Wilson of Forests NSW.
“The aim is to educate motorbike riders about appropriate motorbike use on public lands and to improve community and motorbike rider safety.
Finally -5th on the list“People can only ride on public lands if they are licensed and their motorbike is registered and roadworthy, the same as any public road in the State.”Mr Wilson said unregistered motorbikes have no third party insurance, and if the rider is involved in an accident they could be responsible for significant liability costs
“They can also be charged by the land manager and police for illegal use of roads and being unregistered and unlicensed,” Mr Wilson said.
“Fundamentally the campaign aims to improve rider and public safety but it is also to reduce related damage to the environment and public assets stemming from unauthorised trail bike activity.
“Irresponsible motorbike riders impact on neighbours, other public land users and the environment.”
Mr Wilson said inconsiderate trail bike riders cause noise disturbance and environmental damage to tracks and trails, resulting in loss of habitat and soil erosion.
“Networks of ad hoc tracks created by motorbikes are expensive to repair and can lead to weeds and pests spreading more quickly,” Mr Wilson said.
“This campaign will provide a network for public agencies to exchange information on prevention strategies by integrating compliance operations on the North Coast.
“We urge trail bike riders to do the right thing and stick to riding registered bikes on legal trails.
“Riding on closed trails on public lands is a serious offence and will attract further fines for offenders.
“Many motorbike riders are doing the right thing.
“Unfortunately some don’t and the problem is that these riders can pose a significant risk to the public safety of other park users such as families and bush walkers.”
A new brochure and posters have been released as part of the campaign.
Actually TB, mate I’m going to correct you, for upon revision it appears neither the statement (press release) nor the original post was soley or even predominantly about rego. It is about ILLEGAL behaviour, of which one is lack of rego.
we’re all breaking the strict letter of the law in some way, it’s just how badly, Im with TB though, personally I rather not have my mirrors on or something trifling like that,remember my written word post? I reckon classic example.
Scotty wrote:
Quote:We have just had an issue down here with mountain bike trails that have existed for over 20 years. The local council has since decided these trails are now illegal and are expecting local police to take action against anyone who rides them. Local MTB clubs put forward a plan to make the trails sustainable with no success.If they want you off the land they will make it happen, with or without rego. If they can stop pushies riding the bush what hope do moto’s have.
They’d have to designate the tracks as such at a formal full council meeting with a tabled vote on it wouldn’t they Scotty to be enforceable, much the same as at a road worksite, the TCP must be 100% adhered to with signage and whatnot or the courts will throw the fines out.
Scotty wrote:
Quote:We have just had an issue down here with mountain bike trails that have existed for over 20 years. The local council has since decided these trails are now illegal and are expecting local police to take action against anyone who rides them. Local MTB clubs put forward a plan to make the trails sustainable with no success.If they want you off the land they will make it happen, with or without rego. If they can stop pushies riding the bush what hope do moto’s have.
The council has bushland it is in control of Scotty?
Crikey that’s not the councils core business, it’s DEPT of lands or NPWS or whoever. They must have wrested control of it from another authority, we have road reserves and that is it, don’t want any more (actually maybe we do, there’s around 20-30 bike riders work on council including the Deputy Mayor and the GM… Mmmm maybe if we did……. )
Ollie wrote:
Quote:After as the air pressure will push on the rimlock and thus help to get a better grip
Also when trying to remove the rimlock make sure there is no air pressure left in the tyre! :laugh:
Ollie
What they said X3
singletrackmind wrote:
Quote:Singletracks are illegal in National parks but are legal in State Forests.STM
Is Slaters road still there STM?
That cost Slaters alot of money, cause they pushed it in with no authority, but was quickly designated an access road once there.
micknmeld wrote:
Quote:A lot of the single trails we ride are in fact disused and overgrown firetrails and logging snig tracks. I wonder at what stage of regrowth do they no longer consider them to be “legal trails”. Many of these trails would have long gone back to lantana forest if there weren’t trails continually being kept open.See my post Mick, it was argued at a meeting I was at several years ago, it has been designated an access track, and is then designated such until officialy rescinded.
A little old lady calls 000. When the operator answers she yells, “Help, send the police to my house right away. There’s a damn Labor party politician on my front porch and he’s playing with himself.”
“What?” the operator exclaimed.
“I said there is a damn member of the labor party on my front porch playing with himself and he’s weird; I don’t know him and I’m afraid! Please send the police.” the little old lady repeated.
“Well, now, how do you know he’s a Labor party member?” says the operator.
“Because, you damn fool, if it was a Liberal, he’d be screwing somebody!”Scooty there is some loopholes in that for the experienced forest user, not always the case, but can be:
If a track has been designated as an access track at ANY point of time in a crown forest, we legally cannot be pursued through the courts unless it has signage specifically denoting it’s closure.
Ie: once a road, always a road no matter how overgrown it’s become.I Agree that the unrego bit is just the “cover story”, they don’t care weather a bike is rego’d or not, they just want them gone altogether.
Otherwise they would do this in the well-known areas, where pitbikes wander free….
I’m not as uptight about rego as many others closer to the big smokes, probably about 1/2 the blokes I ride with are on modified MXers, as were we ride there is almost absolute isolation and farmer joes run their cattle in there unalwfully to try, but if it was nearer civilisation I could see the issues with every Joe dik and his mate riding around on noisy unsuitable bikes making a target out of all of us.
It’s a far different world up here to even your area Mick.
Coppers here will stop in the biush and ask the boys if they’ve seen any suspicious activites, crops or stolen cars, and ignore the lack of Plates or lights most of the time.
We have a bigger issue with illegal Doof parties being held in the forests every second weekend, destroying everything in sight and a few deaths here and there.micknmeld wrote:
Quote:Why so cynical mr Blue?? One only has to go into any State Forest or NP on the MNC to see what a great job the relevent departments are doing on eradicating, noxious weeds like Lantana for instance. The great job the Forestry (and or their contractors) do in cleaning up after logging operations is always a sight to behold too.THe damage trailbikes do to the bush by using ad hoc trails would have to be 10 times worse than the damage that the Dozer and skidder that are currently Logging in a nearby nature reserve, wouldn’t you say?
If they are looking for someone to blame for their slackness maybe they should look a bit further afield than the trailbike brigade. You ought to see the damage done here in the bush a couple of years back when a major horse trail ride took place here through the National park in damp weather. Talk about chopping trails to bits and I am 100% sure that not one of the 1000’s of lumps of horse shit left behind, had any non endemic seeds in them either.(Read with tongue in cheek)
But Michael, you & I both know from their warm and fuzzy press releases, that they only ever think of the greater good for forest use, they never ever would think of Bowing to loud minority groups, or be pressured by the Gov’t of the day to make more money.
I put it to you that the largest regular group of forest users up here would be Off-road motorcyclists, and that could be double edged sword, but if we are the predominant legit usergroup, by golly shouldn’t our voices be heard.
Trailboss wrote:
Quote:Dont worry about that bit Bruce we know their political bullshit behind it is just that. Get the pit bikes get the unregistered MX bikes and get the tossers riding unrego’ed. Level the playing field so when one of those pecker heads runs into me in the forest green slip insurance and the likes helps me :angry: :angry: This is one of my pet hates and if we did the right thing it would give us a leg to stand on other fronts as far as defending our sport goes because we are losing the argument and I will see in my ride time things change for the worse mark my words :angry:TB
On this you’re right, because we are an easy, non organised group of recreational forest users, who are oft easily portrayed as “Hoons”.
It’s the old.. “Oh look over there and see what they’re doing, aren’t they naughty, now look at what a good job I’m doing by stopping them” to draw attention away from the fact they are mismanaging and destroying the very ideals they were entrusted to protect.
We need more organisation and a political voice, like the greenies have, cause reality is there’s more of us actively using the bush than there are of them.
micknmeld wrote:
Quote:” said campaign spokesman David Wilson of Forests NSW.“
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“Networks of ad hoc tracks created by motorbikes are expensive to repair and can lead to weeds and pests spreading more quickly,” Mr Wilson said.
That is the bit that is blatant Bull, in forests NSW the biggest spreader of weeds is the logging and cheap labour contract roading crews, Davids (actually his superiors) are just on the high horse again, as several of his Peers and masters are anti-everything and clutch at straws for a bit of publicity
I’ll take anything they say seriously when they actually go into the forests they porport to look after and walk around without getting lost.
I can show anyone a dozen forests up here that have non-endemic species introduced by the detrius still laying about the cavities and engine compartments of harvestors and Skidders brought in from far flung areas, to do the work on the cheap, because SFNSW is not about anything but lowest common denominator business, how do I know, I worked for them and then along side them for more years than I care to remember.
How about David (actually the people pulling his strings) congratulating the northern Bike riders who clean up after the doof-parties and report dangerous Storm damage to your field staff… oh wait on that’s right you don’t have any feild staff leaft, only Bureaucrats and ladder-climbers, all your experienced and knowledgeable staff have been kicked out or pensioned off at early ages.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not defending Illegal activities, but SFNSW and NPWS are the biggest crowd of hypocrital back-biting truth bending manipulators, I ever worked for, some good people in the system, but overall do more damage than good under a system that was exploited and fed to the media as “good for the environment and the regions”.
Rear linkage bearings for “02-“04 Yamaha YZs and WRs.
NB- these sizes are specific only to the models above, prior to, and after which they changed
NRSC-20.00×27.00×30.00- ( over $26 each for bare bearing-not that cheap )
Wheel bearings for
YZ125 99-09
YZ250 99-09
YZ250F 01-08
WR250F 01-09
YZ400F 99
WR400F 99-02
YZ426F 00-02
WR426F 01-02
YZ450F 03-08Front Wheel – Bearings: 6904-RS
Seals: 25x38x7Rear Wheel – Bearings: 62/22RD, 60/22RD
Seals: 30x50x7, 30x44x5Bloody great Idea TB, I’ll have a look at the old ones this evening, as they all the same for the YZ/WR range from 98ish to current.
If someone knows the bearing sizes for “02-“04 yamaha YZ/WR linkages I’d be grateful….
In the middle of a rearend refurbishment, and am ashamed to state that I left it far too late this time…..
Corey8 wrote:
Quote:Do people really struggle with tyre changing that much really? i have always done mine since i was a kid and yes i have pinched my fair share of tubes as a kid but practise makes perfect reallyMy biggest problem is I find changing tyres like house painting, my mind wanders and I don’t like doing it so I avoid it, mundane things are like that sometimes…
But sometime you just have to do so, you just do it and think of new wqays to avoid it.Not everything about this dirtbiking caper is fun, but I s’pose the hi-revving 4T boys already know that…..
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