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Well it’s sorted,
while certainly a brilliant deduction it wasn’t tank breather it was the………..Bloody fibre washer under the seat, it would take a while to start leaking past but once it did it was like a mini flood gate. I think the washer has hardened with age and constant compression and when I’ve taken the seat out the whole shebang has not taken up again. So I made a new fibre washer and it’s going gangbusters.
Thanks for all the help gents, as usual a veritable font of information.
Bruce
KTM Bull wrote:
Quote:Im thinking i should hold a cooling system school for you guys to kill some of the myths that marketing gurus have got out there to cover up poor design maybe when TB is doing his north coast servicing schoolpre-booking two seats in that seminar from here in Casino Bull.
and then a ride to test our progress…..
KTM Bull wrote:
Quote:,Layoff for a few years to get his business and career happening, but now BA XR6 upgraded turbo & poppet, new manifold setup, flowed head, different forged Pistons, cam grinds, programmeable ECU, flowed dyno built exhaust, Hi-stall wonderbox, massively intercooled, hi-flow pumps, oil cooler, aftermarket radiator and heaps more that I tend to zone out about cause it’s a bloody falcon, but 440kw at rear wheels so far and he’s a bit grumpy about it’s final drive ratio.What have you done about the water pump turning backwards on the barra motor
Dunno Bull I’ll ask him on friday when we have a few laughs about his bloody ford obsession.
BOLLOCKS wrote:
Quote:sigh :blush:
oh well,thank god i don’t do it for a living thenOk Bols You can redeem yourself by telling the one about about “rideon dishwashers” though…
BC
No offence was taken Moto, we have always made fun of the “chrome exhaust tip, big wheels” wannabes since i was young, nah if I can be so self elevating, we’ve always been a bit more serious than that.
Ie;
VL ranger with complete driveline out of e-38, fully seam welded and strengthened bay1978 corolla P/van shell with many different drive combos but best was 12a turbo bigport through celica w-58 into shortened hilux diff with TRD centre and 40k worth of parts, like RA28 struts with Koni adj inserts, LJ torana springs, cortina 6 cylinder trans tunnel, 55-45 weight dist, 4″ tailshaft, tailsaft loop, big oil cooler, cold air induction, cold fuel box, adj wolf 3D ECU, coil over rear end, 3/4 chassis, Toyota lite truck power steering, 12.5 discs and volvo 4 spots, 100 litre tank with surge tank and twin high flow holleys, Showa racing radiator set at 12 degrees slant, Paddle clutch and all fully engineered in 1988.
Built to hillclimb, ended up Dragraced and a bit of club circuit.Rod;
MkII RS2000 with highly tuned 2L with masport box and all bilsteins
MKI escort with mid-tuned 2L masport box and Konis all corners.GXL with 4 bolt 351 clevo, FMX hi-stall 9″, running 2V heads into torquer manifold ad 650DP, accel ign and high lift long duration cam/ onto solids & roller rockers.
Layoff for a few years to get his business and career happening, but now BA XR6 upgraded turbo & poppet, new manifold setup, flowed head, different forged Pistons, cam grinds, programmeable ECU, flowed dyno built exhaust, Hi-stall wonderbox, massively intercooled, hi-flow pumps, oil cooler, aftermarket radiator and heaps more that I tend to zone out about cause it’s a bloody falcon, but 440kw at rear wheels so far and he’s a bit grumpy about it’s final drive ratio.
Funnily enough you point out about WRX and so forth wonderboys, last weekends drag meeting, not a single one turned out, mostly old blokes in very serious rides, early and late models including a verified 1100 hp GTR that was simply amazing to watch and i reckon the owner/driver was at least 50 yr old, street legal twin turbo VX V8, MkII eascort 351, mini panelvan with 400ci smallblock and T700 auto, and gotta love this …. a well setup turboed Fiesta crowd pleaser cause it looked standard, not real fast but a headturner nonetheless.
There’s some serious lads around, just so happened they’re the same serious lads from 25 yrs ago mostly, with new toys and more money.
BC
BOLLOCKS wrote:
Quote:you two need a labottomy. :blink: …..the 2 dead match sticks are explaining to the fresh match stick what their little flame off caused (first one a bush fire…second one a house fire….and the un burnt matchstick thinks its pretty cool and i have no doubt he has high expectations of one day causing mass destruction when it one day becomes his turn to flame it up:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: i love my messed up sense of humour :cheer:
Bol :woohoo:
I got it Bols’ but it was just plain lame…..
You may scoff Moto, but 20 years ago i built a “cold can” for my Turbo Rotary corolla, the 1/2″ fuel line was coiled through it and you added ice, worked a treat.
Now the watercooled intercooler isn’t a mist sytem, they’ve been around for years, as has Water/meth injet for big boost, crikey even I was a nipper when the lads first used that. No this system the intake piping runs through a watercooled jacket, reducing intake temps significantly, the asphalt surface and ambient temps in the staging lanes can rob lotsa HP out of a vehicle, experienced myself at Willowbank many times during summer meetings.
There is more stuff out there to enhance power than you or i are aware of and much more to come yet.
Sealed systems are as TB said for the boys with 1000s of HP, or chainsaw racers with modded 2T motorcycle powerunits.
Nah Rod does like a bit of overkill, but he’s in the trade (head mechanic for a fleet of taxis and couriers and an industrial instructor in such) and gets to see stuff that I wouldn’t hear about for a few years until it becomes mainstream.
The distance from his home to the 1/8th mile track is about 500 metres, this car while street driven is really only a sunday car or when he’s feeling wicked. Last night he was talking about another slightly different setup for intercollers that I had heard of, water to air intercoolers…..
All about extracting the last HP in an existing combo.
BC
Thanks TB, think I got the picture now, someone started a rumour it was self harming…..
Not that it matters, just well wishes from all.
Best wishes to our fellow rider and his dearest, please accept my apologies for any conclusions i may have contributed to by assuming it was firearms related.
Bruce C.
KTM Bull wrote:
Quote:Mr Blue wrote:Quote:Thats the ones TB, can be mounted under the rear or anywhere you can get an airflow going with a fan setup, he’s worked on a few industrial units so i reckon that’s where the idea came from.Next question on heat exchange
why doesn’t the coolant flow go from combustion area to lower jacket areas?
Pros & Cons!
BC
Because bubbles go up not down and thermo syphon also goes up not down
Ok so it’d be fighting the laws of physics of heated liquids and gases, but surely the pump could overcome this.
Mal, I thought of that too, but if we had a thermostat or system with a flow that kept coolant temps reasonably constant rather than the difference of now, besides the obvious size issues associated with a volume of liquid needed t achieve this, what could be the drawbacks?
Thats the ones TB, can be mounted under the rear or anywhere you can get an airflow going with a fan setup, he’s worked on a few industrial units so i reckon that’s where the idea came from.
Next question on heat exchange
why doesn’t the coolant flow go from combustion area to lower jacket areas?
Pros & Cons!
BC
Moto wrote:
Quote:Why wouldn’t you use an air/oil cooler that are readily available in many shapes and sizes and available for almost any car that boys want to play with? Christ, there must be 50 to choose from for the XR6. It was good enough for Bugatti when they made the Veyron.Drag racing with a hyped up Auto, not much airflow waiting in the lanes, and Rod knows his stuff I tips me hat to him any day of the week, the falcon is all his own build ex-factory, and he also has a 1951 dodge ute ready to be built and he’s done the 5.4 quad cam engine and had it dynoed running into a fancy gearbox, I used to show him stuff, now i learn from him………..
Also owns a little GSXR1127, that seriously hauls arse (ex-mine)
One of Robbie Phyllis’ old Superbikes- 1982 Kat 1100
His 30 yr old GSX1100
and a modded XR500 RD Pro-linkIsn’t life interesting?
But seriously would be interesting to know if anyone else has experience with these types of heat exchangers
Moto wrote:
Quote:Trailboss wrote:Quote:Mr Blue wrote:Quote:Ok this heat exchanger you’re speaking of TB, what do you know of water over oil cooling systems?BC
As is coolant used to engine cool oil Bruce?
TB
Several industrial applications use oil in large radiators and cooling applications too. Some air compressors and turbines (steam and/or gas) use oil coolers to dissipate heat.
Even your favorite company PWR do oil coolers.
I’ve worked in many places with these systems, the only issue is the oil on the outer of many heat exchange units forms a “skin” and the hot stuff just circulates up the middle, but some of the better ones (like my old GSXRs massive oil cooler) had wire spiralling up the cores to help turbulence.
BC
Trailboss wrote:
Quote:Mr Blue wrote:Quote:Ok this heat exchanger you’re speaking of TB, what do you know of water over oil cooling systems?BC
As is coolant used to engine cool oil Bruce?
TB
Sorry lads had to work a little today and haven’t had much time for my primary function…posting on here, Yep TB last night a mate (440kw XR6) was talking about a little insurance, and water cooled, oil heat exchanger, or a water cooled-oil cooler
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