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Cr0w3 wrote:

the steg pegz bolt on as normal

The rear Safari Tank is an awesome design, unfortunately the finishing & fit is below average. the Tank will not just bolt up & the way mine fits there is no way a rear tank can be run with Steg Pegz, more importantly get air filter access.

fuel line from rear tank goes to a T junction meeting the front tank and flowing to the cabie insitu. By turning on both taps F&R the fuel will self level both tanks to run a lower centre of gravity. Or I can just run the rear dry first but I like a balanced feel which is working well so far..

From what I can see in the photo the tank was just sitting there with no fuel lines installed. where is the second tap located, also shows a large gap between air box door & tank this should be a neat fit.

Front Brake line will compete with full knobby tyres.. especially Motoz Tractionator’s if run inside fork leg…

The brake line has more chance of being taken out on the outside than the inside, I guess thats why Yamaha designed it the way they did, the brake line & wheel are at a set distance, they will never come together, although the bush, rocks, trees are unknowns & will rip it out.
If you have any suggestions to improve my setup feel free to let me know what you reckon. I appreciate the support from experienced racers who know their way around setting up a bike better than others less able.

regards Adam

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Cr0w3 wrote:

A couple of questions from looking at the photo.

How do you run Steg Pegz with the rear tank?

Have you still got the original ADR tail piece fitted that holds the number plate & indicators?

How does the fuel line run from the rear tank to the Carby?

Why does the front brake hose run around the outside of the fork leg?

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mike wrote:

Ollie wrote:

Gyday mate, I found this jetting info, apparently everyone raves about it

Will do 105km before hitting reserve in GNCC style conditions

criteria

Hey Ollie me and Tom my son have been running this jetting for a while now and agree that you do get very good clean,crisp throttle response but the economy was not so good we tend to be switching over to reserve around 70 – 80ks :ohmy:

I think your on the money Mike with the economy, as it states GNCC style Conditions, not riding snotty singles, although N.P. That sorted the jetting rides some serious snot. The new owner of his WR is back to 70km tank.

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Nato wrote:

When you say the jetting is either lean or too rich when standard wouldn’t they come with the same setup making them all either rich or lean?

With the gearing he says the singles are still ok i would imagine that with his bike setup to do long days with the tanks and what not he does not go and do days of singles so with the mix of open road fire trails, A few singles, main roads and transport it is his best half way point.

And he said it will pull 150kph (no doubt on a private property :whistle: ) What would you call high speeds? Or do you meen that the setup h states would not pull that?

Im not trying to pick at your post or be a smart ass or start a big rant on the subject but just educate myself on the subject is all.
Nato

WR’s are delivered either restricted ADR form (lean)or unrestricted, change of a needle, jet & remove pea shooter exhaust (rich) both are crap.

150k is a wall that no matter how you gear the bike they will get there on the limiter @13/50, or run out of top end with any other gearing. Generally above 150 requires a substantial tail wind.

As for other brands a stock CRF with good jetting will pull 160k

KTM 530 good for a touch more & a 570 Berg in between the two,

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Ollie wrote:

Gyday mate, I found this jetting info, apparently everyone raves about it. really improves economy.

Ollie

Year: 2010/2011
Model (450):
Cam Timing (WR or YZ):
Main jet: 168 (WR header) 172 (YZF header)
MAJ: 178 (#50 drill) for WR exhaust, 140 (#54 drill) for YZF [Use the 110 in the GYT-R kit and drill it out]
Pilot Jet:42
PAJ:84 (#66 drill)
Leak Jet: R&D adjustable
Starter Jet:65
Fuel screw (turns out):2 1/4
Needle Model/Clip position: **DVR-#4 for YZF exhaust, *DSQ-#4 for WR
Grey Wire Mod (Y):
TPS Connected (Y):
Airbox Snorkel/Lid (off):
AIS (Not fitted to AUS models):
Airfilter Brand: Moto Air
Muffler Brand: 2008 YZ450F mechanically baffled
Header Brand: WR
Average Altitude:0-1000m
Average Temperature: 25-30C
Average Humidity:75%
Degree of Satisfaction (0-10):9
Additional Mods/Comments:

TPS voltage: 0.70v
Float Height: 9mm
Squirt length: 330mm
O’ring mod
2nd gen BK style mod
R&D AP link spring
enlarged AP feeder orifice

Will do 105km before hitting reserve in GNCC style conditions

p.s. PAJ, MAJ and float height are compulsory inputs, the rest of the jetting hangs off these criteria

That stuff has been around for a while, recently I changed from JD needle to the one above, other than the needle I’ve been running that setup for 18 months.

The change of needle had a dramatic effect on power delivery that is less bottom end punch although the bike is less tiring to ride, gained nothing else.

Back to back with another bike with my old setup fuel consumption is the same 10km/litre.

We rode with another OB recently & he commented following the two bikes he could see the difference of power delivery.

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More info in this news article.

Shame it is all focused on Ben, three other riders were taken from the event in a bad way & nothing is mentioned anywhere.

Bathurst rider Ben Grabham was seriously injured after hitting a kangaroo at 150 kilometres an hour during a stage of the Condo 750 on Sunday and is waiting on CT scans on his back to know the extent of his injuries.
The Motorex KTM rider was leading the race when he came across six kangaroos who jumped out from behind scrub on a high speed straight section of road. He slammed into one, knocking him off his bike and leaving him with a broken wrist and shoulder plus back problems.

Damien Grabham was five minutes behind his brother and stayed with him while waiting on assistance. He didn’t take any further part in the race.

“He is at Westmead Hospital and is still waiting on CT scans on his back. He has broken his wrist and shoulder and has cuts and bruises, but the main problem is his back,” Damien said.

“He can still move his feet and legs but until the results of the CT scan come, it’s hard to say what damage has been done. It certainly looks like he will be out for a while at this stage.

“Ben was winning the race, he had passed the leader earlier in the day and I was running fourth. As soon as I got there [to Ben] I just stopped. I didn’t care about the race after that.”

Ben had elected not to the do the Australian Off-Road Championship this year, instead preferring to concentrate on doing 10 desert events. He won the QUIT Forest Rally in Western Australia a week ago, his first major race for the season, and he was looking strong to get another win on Sunday.

He finished fourth in Friday’s prologue with Damien seventh.

Ben had worked his way up to second by the end of Saturday, just one minute and 44 seconds behind Todd Smith, with his brother remaining in seventh.

Both moved up the leaderboard on Sunday morning, but Smith regained the lead and and went on to win after Ben’s accident.

Damien said there wasn’t anything Ben could do to avoid the collision and added it was one of those races where there were a few obstacles for the competitors to overcome.

“I had three cows come out in front of me about half an hour before [Ben’s accident], so you just don’t know what can happen,” he said.

“It was that dusty at times too so that you couldn’t see what was going on. There were about six bikes ahead of me at the start of the race and the dust was just hanging around, there wasn’t any breeze to break it up.

“There was a straight that was three or four kilometres long and I was only going 40 kilometres an hour when I should have been doing 150, but there just wasn’t any visibility.”

The youngest of the Grabham brothers, Broc, also competed in the race and he came home 15th despite having plenty of problems himself.

“He did okay, he had a fair few dramas,” Damien said.

“He stayed with a rider who had come off his bike on the first day and then he had a tyre come off a rim and he had to ride for 50 kilometres before he could put a new one on.

“He also stopped with Ben, but I told him to keep going to stop him from getting too upset.”

There was better news for the Bathurst father-son combination of David and Andrew Travis, who finished second in the Auto section in their Isuzu Vcross. It was just the second time that the pair had contested the event after finishing fourth in 2011.

They had a two and a half minute lead after Saturday but lost time on Sunday and finished less than a minute behind winners Geoff Olholm and Gordon Trigg.

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Crash wrote:

If you get some spare time down the track SB, you might be able to put down a few lines about what happened over the weekend. Also, maybe some tips or hints for anybody contemplating having a go at this event in the future. Now you’ve done it a few times, anything you put down might help.

It’s a great event for blokes wanting to challenge themselves both physically & mentally. It’s a terrific race, the terrain is a great mix of flat out paddock/ fenceline runs, up & downhill rocky climbs & descents, bulldust twintrack sections through trees, creekbed runs, weaving bush sections etc – a bit of everything.

Once again, well done SB

Not a lot I can say about the preparation for the event as the way I go about things may be over the top for 95% of people, although Jimmy sums it up well, about a week of bike prep & then 5 days in Condobolin & another day or two at home cleaning up.

The race at my pace is much more mental rather than physical. For me I’d rather be slower & get my Nav right than just follow tracks & do a lot of backtracing.

Condo Nav is much harder than Safari as there are a lot more calls close together which keeps your eyes off the track & on the Tripmeter.

I’m sure Crash could add plenty here

Some of the gear I took

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GaleyKTM300 wrote:

Nice work SB. Top 21 is awesome. Nice overview of your event. Big rocky hills = awesome. :blush:

What number did you run? I will look for you in the pics. 70 with yellow barkbusters?

Will have to look up the details about the dnf’s and crashes. Hope everyone is OK.

70 with yellow Barkbusters

All of Ross’s photos are excellent, well worth looking through the entire gallery

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It was a really good event, tracks were awesome with heaps of variety including some big rocky hills.

Lost a spring off my muffler on Day 1 then got caught in severe dust.

Day 2 went as well I could have hoped for, no Nav errors & the WR was flying

Plan for the weekend was to enjoy the ride & keep the bike upright. Wasn’t really worried about placings.

Bens accident was bad as well as Greg Elliott & Harley Hennings head on.

Shane Dieners bike was a new Stock 2012 WR450 with 100k’s on it, so he did well to place second against the GHR Honda, some issues with timing around Bens accident so he may not actually be 14 mins behind.

For some of the best photos of the event. http://rbimage.net/?smw-gallery=condo-750-2012

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EAGLE`02 wrote:

:laugh:

Is that Angus Place Colliery in the last one ???

Cheers

Think it is Baal Bone, Invincible is to the left out of shot……

Angus place is on the other side of Wolgan road

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Trailboss wrote:

. It could also be said that as you have stated on ADV rider an advantage you had when you did the Safari was that you rode a GHR customer bike and didn’t have to work on it thus reducing the actual mechanical input that you had with the bike. I do respect your opinion as you said you have done the miles and other haven’t.
TB

This comment lifted from ADV was taken out of context. It had little to do with what I knew about my bike or if I knew what was happening with it.

The ADV thread was about physical prearation for Safari & my comment related to that, not having to work on the bike allowed me to relax, get to bed early & sleep well, unlike others around me in the field that never got to bed before midnight each night.

No I didn’t have to work on the bike of an evening, however I’d spent a lot of time with GHR understanding the bike, what I might need to do if it shit itself in the middle of a 300km special, as it did. I carried specific tools for the bike understood where they will be needed. I actually learnt a lot & and carry a few more obcure items in my bumbag.

Marathon days, no person other than the rider may work on the bike except for fueling.

As for screens, ride more often & your neck muscles will strengthen, Even my girlfriend rides a naked sports bike without a screen & is listed as a multiple Far Rider ( minimum 1000km in 24hours) & says screens are over rated.

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Lefty wrote:

sb_250y wrote:

Lefty wrote:

It seems as though I am way off the mark :laugh: :laugh: I will leave it to the experts!

See my Avatar Champ I’ve done more km’s on a CRF recently than most so I have a fair idea of whats needed & whats not.

As I have already said Champ! I will leave it up to the EXPERTS eh!

Champ is not a word I’d normally use, however since it was in reply to someone that favours the word I threw it in :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Seems when I choose to share my hard earned knowledge someone clutching at straws knows better.

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Lefty wrote:

It seems as though I am way off the mark :laugh: :laugh: I will leave it to the experts!

See my Avatar Champ I’ve done more km’s on a CRF recently than most so I have a fair idea of whats needed & whats not.

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BellingenEv wrote:

Sb what forks do you recomend how much?
Is that true about force guards mine are bent?
Is the 450 new didnt you ride a 250 at Lowanna?

Forks will cost just under $500, that will include service? New seals & wipers & a Tvalve kit theoretically set up for your weight & riding style.

I’ve got gen III T valves standard springs & 10mm preload, Badbowie has Gen II & his bike is very different to ride.

It hasn’t been an easy process to get it right although now Teknik are rid of the deadwood they had working there it may be easier. I still don’t know if it is 100% but feels ok to ride.

Force replacement is only hearsay, mine are bent, why replace them as I’m sure they will bend again, although the newer guards are a better design than the earlier ones (mine are old) thicker alloy less laser cutting & a stronger different design backbrace.

I’ve only owned WR450’s, can’t see the point of buying a 250, even when I’m dragging it up hills like last weekend with Mal. Don’t think you can have too much power

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Lefty wrote:

Hey there Bols!

A soft/comfortable seat is a must. Reduce the vibrations through the handle bars, rubber mount, maybe some weight in the bar ends would help to reduce the vibes. I still need to try this. (TB suggestion) Or better still a set of flex bars. Soft Rallye Grips. Screen for wind buffet, good head light in case you get stuck and require to do some night riding, not ideal but better than a std candle. Pivot pegs are a comfort thing.

More Later,

Cheers Lefty

CRF’s have rubber mount bars standard, they twist at the the smallest hit

Screens are not needed, I even ride a naked sport bike, Screens are for softies & over rated IMHO

A set of Rallye foam grips maybe, although a few people think Renthal Dual Compound Kevlar grips are better, especially if you don’t like bulky grips.

A Set of Fastway F3 pegs are the go, can be run at standard height or 10mm lower. Much better than the mini bike pegs that come on the CRF.

The standard seat is fine, as I posted earlier. Never gave me any issues

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