[Scott SouthwellMember]

Krusty wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Mr Blue wrote:

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226-725cc ( $340, more for those up to 300cc, less for those between 300-725cc)

Again Bruce either you need to find a new insurer or you have a very bad driving history which is inflating your rates. My 400cc bike cost $256 for green slip this year at city rates.

From where Scotty? cheapest for my DRZ is $380 most expensive is $475 :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:

Thats using the rta greenslip calc too

GIO, $256.61. Is yours a recent quote Krusty or last years?

[Scott SouthwellMember]

Mr Blue wrote:

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226-725cc ( $340, more for those up to 300cc, less for those between 300-725cc)

Again Bruce either you need to find a new insurer or you have a very bad driving history which is inflating your rates. My 400cc bike cost $256 for green slip this year at city rates.

[Scott SouthwellMember]

Hatto, In Australia all vehicle must have ADR compliance to be eligible for full registration. In Victoria bike don’t need to be ADR compliant to obtain Rec Rego. That is not going to be the case here in NSW’s. Only ADR compliant bike will be able to get Rec Rego. It will be a cheap way for those who have ADR bikes and don’t what to ride roads to register there bikes.

It is yet to be seen yet how much cheaper it will be. Green slips have come down in price for the majority of dirt bikes over the past year with a changing of the capacity scale. From what CJ has said they are still lobbying to have motorcycle green slips reduced even further. If this happens the price difference between full Rego and Rec Rego could be even smaller.

I do giggle at those who go out and buy $13000+ dirtbike, go throw even more cash on aftermarket parts, performance bits and riding gear than complain that registration is making the sport too expensive.

[Scott SouthwellMember]

menace wrote:

no one checks up on rec rego either Scotty, just like they dont with our cars either. no yearly RWC for us.
green slips and pink slips are just feeding the hungry insurance bastards.

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I agree with you about greedy insurers on green slips but pink slips have nothing at all to do with insurance companies they are a yearly safety inspection making sure our vehicles are safe to drive on the roads. Things like tyres, brakes, suspension etc are all checked. Who checks these things in Vic or does everybody just drive unroadworthy busted and broken shitboxes?

As for rec rego up here it’s pointless everybody arguing about non ADR bikes as the proposal put forward is for ADR bikes only. If people want to ride an MX bikes in the bush legally then they will need to travel South of the border.

[Scott SouthwellMember]

adam wrote:

Jeffro,

Judging by those cables of yours those rats that were nesting in Boony’s airbox ventured over to your bike whilst you were in them there hills of gold :laugh: :laugh:

Adam.

PS good video footage

Rats is a good theory but im guessing someone left some wires hanging loose when they fitted their new triple clamp and steering damper. Oops. :silly:

[Scott SouthwellMember]

Very nice Eages. The KTM690R would be on my shopping list if I was to trade up the DRZ. I would need to replace the plastics though. As good as the bike is I couldn’t live with puke orange.

[Scott SouthwellMember]

Bruce I think for most people 45 times a year is more than enough, certainly more than I ride and I do see the benefit for people like yourself. As for $600 a year for rego you are getting bent over. My DRZ is due next month, $366 all up and thats for city rates, country get it cheaper. Yep still more than the proposed $120 (I’ll believe that when I see it) but a long way short of $600.

[Scott SouthwellMember]

Mr Blue wrote:

Ok a few points.

As CJ said it appears the NSW REC REGO model will be confined to bikes that are conplaint with the Australian Design Rules, now firstly a bike bearing an ADR approval is not necessarily superior in any way to one not bearing it.

Bruce Cee

Bruce, I think you will find the powers that be in VIC are starting to realise they got it wrong on the issue of non ADR bikes. The fact is people are bypassing the laws.

The problem I see is I do agree you are right an well maintained MX bike is as safe as a ADR enduro model in its build quality. But if we are allowing non ADR vehicles into the bush does this open the argument for quad bikes, home build rock crawlers, off road buggies and the like to hit the bush legally. Heck if it doesn’t have to have ADR’s why can’t any bush mechanic bolt together a motorised contraption of sorts, whether is has 2,3,4 or even 10 wheels and get rego to hit the bush legally.

Again how do you stop the cheap shit coming from China, most of which it could be argued are dangerous as nobody has tested them. You say ADR bikes are not superior to non ADR. I would argue my DRZ is far superior to most of the Chinese shit. We have a shed full of confiscated Chinese pit bike at work. You should see some of these things, no brakes, cracked frames, etc. With lights fitted, which some of these bike come standard with anyway they are ready to hit the bush. I also would like to know if there will be ongoing rego checks for rec rego bikes. Who is making sure those with rec rego are maintaining their bikes to a safe level? For me still to many unanswered questions for me to support the idea. I need to see full well thought out details not just someone saying “similar to Victoria” that don’t help me much.

If manufacturers want there MX bikes in the bush ADR them, its been done before as you well know. If you want to race an MX bike in enduro’s there is already a race rego scheme that covers this.

[Scott SouthwellMember]

Not on a bike but it’s good to see Ricky Johnson is still as fast and stylish as ever. Turn up the sound, how good is the noise these trucks make.

[Scott SouthwellMember]

mal5.1 wrote:

I’ll vote for rec rego. :woohoo:

I can’t see how it will be the beginning of the end of our sport. The boneheaded, rednecks on MX/thumpers riding around the streets will always do it regardless if rec rego is available. They are the ones giving us a bad name. The guys that prefer to ride MX bikes as trail bikes are currently doing it illegally and rec rego would allow them to ride legally.

I would rec rego my ADRed bike as I don’t ride on tar roads and would save around $300 (a few tyres right there). Also I could rec rego my partners bike and she could come out riding with me in the forest and see all the great places we get to. That in itself is worth getting the rec rego up and running for me.

Mal it appears there will still be no MX’ers in the bush here in NSW. From what CJ says the proposal for rec Rego is only for ADR compliant bikes.

I think what some people seem to miss is we have a very unique situation here in Australia. We are able to go to any bike shop and ride out the door with a full blown race ready enduro bike with full registration. How many other countries can you do that in.

If we are able to buy and ride any non ADR bike in the bush legally surely the importers would start to question the cost associated with getting these bikes through ADR’s. It seems Suzuki already don’t see the value in it for the RMX450. Could more manufactures follow suit and we begin to see fewer bikes being able to fully registered if non ADR bikes can be rec registered.

Very few of us are lucky enough to live where we can ride out our back gate into the bush and relay on being able to ride tared roads to reach riding areas or link trails. We all know there will be plenty of people out there who will rec rego there bikes and ride tared roads to link trails or slip into the local town for fuel.

[Scott SouthwellMember]

For the love of god TB, DO NOT TRY THIS ON THE TENERE.

[Scott SouthwellMember]

Capt. Furious wrote:

Wow guys, talk about some hate for the poor old motocross bikes.

I’m going to just duck out the back gate and take the YZ for a ride in your honour 👿

Might even get a quad out there whilst I’m at it.

Make the most of it, because with that kind of attitude soon none of us will have a place to ride. I know your joking but there are people out there who do this who are F–king it up for everybody.

[Scott SouthwellMember]

CJ the bastard wrote:

Rec rego is not very far away.
We have been working closely with Dept of Premiers and Cabinet, NPWS, RTA and MAA and we have an in principle agreement with DPC.
Moves are also afoot to fix the CTP in NSW.
The audit by Ernst and Young found that for every dollar paid in by car drivers, 50c went out in claims.
For bike riders, every dollar in had 23c in claims going out so we are getting screwed.
This should change in the next couple of months.

Letter from MCCofNSW released 19 April 2011
Delegates,
I wish to inform you that in response to work that we have been putting in with the Premiers Department, we have an in principle agreement from the RTA, MAA, NPWS, Lands Department and the Premiers Department for Recreational Registration in NSW. We await Ministerial sign-off, but we understand that this will be forthcoming in the weeks ahead.

The basics of this deal include the following:

A yearly price of around $120
45 days a year riding.
CTP included in the price.
Part of the fee will be used for dedicated tracks and facilities, as well as rehabilitation of environmentally sensitive areas.

Obviously, there is much more to it than this, but this is good news and is supported by the industry through the FCAI.

Regards,
Rob Colligan
Chairman
MCC of NSW

Any queries post away.
CJ

CJ, is there any chance you could post up or point us to the FULL details of what has actually been proposed. All we seem to know is there is a push for a rec rego scheme and most seem to believe it will be the same as in Victoria. From some of the basic details you have posted this doesn’t seem the case. The 45 days riding for instance. Are these set riding days or does the riders get to decide what day they ride and if so who is counting the days?

There still seems to be confusion about where we can and can’t ride on rec rego. Will it be clearly defined where a rec rego bike can ride? Again more details of what has been proposed needed. It seems even in Victoria this still causes confusion and there are grey area’s in the law.

Will the rec rego be for all bikes or only those that have ADR compliance? I believe in Victoria (which really is the test case for this legislation) there is talk in the future of ruling non ADR bike out of the rec rego scheme. This has come about from people flouting the laws and not fitting proper lighting systems to MX bikes.

I would like to see a lot more details on the proposal including how the laws will be enforced.

[Scott SouthwellMember]

According to their webstite they do.

http://www.clubmarine.com.au/internet/clubmarine.nsf/docs/Insurance

Go onto get a quote/buy and there is a section for PWC

[Scott SouthwellMember]

May have to try one of the dedicated boat insurers like ‘Club Marine Insurance’. I’m pretty sure they would do personal water craft’s.

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