Thanks Greg. I’ll try and get a bit more out of these then, but if we can do another bulk buy of the matrix braces in the new year I’ll be interested. Just need to get Christmas and two kids weddings out of the way first. the service aspect would be interesting as I found it a real pain in the arse to have to go back to a retailer to get them to deal with the suppliers of. The asterix brace when I got them serviced / repaired last year and then struggled to see what if anything they did for the $200 fee!