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Hi rob,
late reply, sorry.
All tenere deals are on our tenere page,
http://teknikmotorsport.com.au/Featured-Bikes/Yamaha-XT660Z-Tenere-Suspension-package-upgrade
hint, the stage 1 outperforms 2 and 3!
Hi all,
with the truck not yet built i’m not really doing mobile testing at present.
What I am doing is a lot of suspension dyno testing that’s really paying off.
As Jeffro said, have a look through the guide, if you need a hand, call the shop on 02 4732 2626, Jack or I can walk you thorough where you are and where you would like to be.Nick
All sorted Bernie?
Good forks. So good Yamaha is still running them in 2016! No air forks for another year, hooray!
We sell the stock plastic Pistons individually, you can only buy a complete compression assembly from Yamaha.
Alternatively we have our alloy Pistons.
They are the KYB AOSS fork, rebound and comp in each leg.
Cracking Pistons is very common.
Call Jack at the shop tomorrow. 47322626
NickI’m away till the 12th. Hardly got any reception up here in Dorroughby NSW.
Tenere deal is still running, see the website for details.
Shop reopens on the 5th for dispatching orders and light work.We have had a few through the shop with the TM40. They go well, almost XR600 like well. Fuel economy is a little worse, apparently.
I agree with Jeffro. Rear spring first, then fork springs, then valving depending on your budget.
If you are worried about unbalancing the bike, don’t be. Adding a rear spring to it will only be positive, as will the other mods.
It’s unbalanced now with your fat arse on it. :blink:Hi Snowy,
We talking engine or suspension here?
Suspension is where is start, just put a spring on the back of it. $155. Do the forks if you have another $155. Rear spring is an easy DIY. Forks are. Little harder, I’m sure you can find an OB who can help you.
Engine. The 250x is a great engine. The people who write them off have never owned one. I’m 115kg plus gear, Hobsy from ADB/Transmoto was 125kg when he owned one from 04-09. He still talks about it today as the best bike he’s ever owned. I had an 05 and still miss it. Better in the bush than my 10 YZ450.
I think they go ok stock. When the inlet valves start pulling through I put Kibblewhite valves in them, inlets only. You have to get the seats cut too. I can do it all, not expensive.
Run the stock header and muffler. They work very well despite looking and sounding ugly. Run an R muffler if you must change it. If you really have to have more power, stage 1 hotcam. More power everywhere.
Keep on top of the air filter.I’ll add this last line as a catch all. The above is my opinion. If you disagree with me, that’s ok, I don’t give a shit. I’m simply expressing my opinion and will not be entering into an argument.
Rule of thumb is a slow bend with no kinks can be straightened. If they are kinked they are junk.
XR600 forks take a bit of force to bend, not like 400 forks, they bend like cheese sticksHey, it’s you, Protty!
Wilbers are not a bad shock. They are very similar to Ohlins but without the R&D that goes into an Ohlins.
Their advantage is they custom build. This is also a disadvantage, it’s a bit hit and miss.
If your customer loves it, that’s great.
If he wants another one, get an Ohlins.:woohoo: Rant warning :woohoo:
I just had another DR650 junkie banging on my door at 1.30pm on a saturday afternoon, trying to fit the DRZ400 shock. I’m trying to build the engine for the truck but i give up. Instead i will rant forth and hopefully be informative along the way.
There are two parts to the Wilbers DR650 story. lets deal with Wilbers first.
Benny Wilber operates his business in what i refer to as the “golden triangle”. It’s an area to the west of Amsterdam, he’s just over the German border so he’s more Dutch than German. In that same area is Hyperpro, Reiger, Technoflex (now gone i think) ,the former mass of WP employees and Yacugar. There is also a LOT of old sublet WP manufactures that make springs, CNC machine shops, foundries.The story goes that the owner of Hyperpro and Benny Wilbers were good mates until they decided to try a spot of wife swapping. This went OK until old mate Hyperpro’s wife decided she liked German sausage more and dumped her husband for Benny. It’s not hard to see Benny is fond of women, a quick look at any of his advertising material shows busty Frauleins in nurses uniforms doing suggestive actions with a Wilbers shock.
What this all means is that any of the shocks from this “golden triangle” have common parts, they are all very close in design and pricing. Unsurprisingly. The Wilbers look the best with black shock bodies, blue springs and red adjusters.
Since Greg at ASR Suspension in Victoria died of cancer last year we have not had a dedicated Wilbers importer. There are state distributors that order shocks for customers. I have the NSW one very close to me, some of the know him. It’s not uncommon for him to walk in my door, explain he’s ordered a factory custom Wilbers shock but the spring rate is wrong or the length is wrong or it just doesn’t fit. It was a Tenere 660 Wilbers last week. Was supposed to be 10mm longer but the factory made it 10mm shorter. How do i know? I print out an Ohlins specification card when he brings the Wilbers in so i can check it.
Now, all this says to me “why the hell would you buy a Wilbers when they can’t get it right most of the time and the Ohlins product is better and the same price” I have no idea. It gobsmacks me. Must be the red knobs, red lipstiock and nurses uniform.
“But” i hear you say, Ohlins has discontinued the DR650 shock so you HAVE to buy a Wilbers. Bullshit.
Ohlins do not assemble the shock any more, however they still make all the parts. I order every part in, about 60 of them, build the shock. I’ve been doing that for a while, about 15 years now. The OZ Ohlins distributor won’t let everyone do it as there has to be warranty and he has to tell the factory in Sweden we are building shocks.
Interestingly i’m not authorized to SERVICE Wilbers shocks, they want me to fly to Germany for a week to be trained to service their shocks. I’ve declined. I still service them and still get in trouble. Wilbers give a 5 year warranty BUT only if you service the shock annually. You have to pay for the service too. :whistle:Now. DR650 shock conversions.
WHY?!
Why do you have to have a rebound adjuster? No one uses the bloody thing anyway. Race Tech make a shaft assembly with a rebound adjuster and a “world famous gold valve” that only costs you $800 installed with a spring, I do a rebound/compression adjustable (piggyback) Ohlins with whatever spring you need in whatever length you want for $1350.
OR you can just get me to revalve the stock 40mm KYB shock with our valving and spring PLUS the forks with springs and Emulators for $750. The DR is a, ahem “LOW COST” trailbike. (Thanks for telling me to stop saying cheap TB)
So, by all means spend $1800 on a Wilbers for your DR650. I will LAUGH when old mate walks in with it and asks me to sort it out before he sends it to you.Rant over. Back to work. Truck engine building halted :sick: have too much other work on. Damn.
Send me an email, nick@teknikmotorsport.com. I’m sure we can slide another Tenere in there somewhere….
Got some swingarm angle going on there. How close are you to the TM angle? Will the chain pull over the guides be OK?
Love the build, very good. you will be a tap dancer on the gear change to keep it in the power but that adds to the funWhen you get it back together run it with the rocker cover off to make sure you have oil pressure at the cam. I don’t recall the 250 having an oil pressure check bolt at the head.
Keep an eye out on evil bay for an 05-09 CRF250 R head and cam or see what Rock can do you a head for.
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