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Chris next ride you go on have a go on a DRZ if there is one there and see what you think. Although I haven’t ridden with him yet, I get the impression that he and I are similar riders and like he says, they go everywhere the other bikes do and jsut as fast with th right rider. You got an idea of my riding ability with the route ride and I go a little bit quicker on the DRZ (but not much).
The DRZ will do everything your XR does with the same low maintenance and the magic button. Don’t be afraid to go to bike shops and ask for a test ride or ask for a go on someone elses bike when on a group ride.
Work plans are up in the air again at the moment and it looks like I won’t be in Melbourne as I thought (plan subject to change at any given time). I fit turns out that I will be home for a while we can get together for a ride and you can try mine once I get the back wheel fixed.
In the end you have to be happy with the bike and in the mean time there is nothing wrong with the XR so you don’t need to rush into anything.
Disclaimer: I am thinking of upgrading to something different myself
Jeffro wrote:
Quote:Chris next ride you go on have a go on a DRZ if there is one there and see what you think. Although I haven’t ridden with him yet, I get the impression that he and I are similar ridersHe rode with you on Saturday and Sunday Jeffro. Having a shocker today mate.
micknmeld wrote:
Quote:Mr Blue wrote:Quote:We have several types of bikes being discussedTB comes from an XR650 mindset, yep quick, reliable, engine longevity is terrific, but also heavy tiring to punt for the average weekend warrior.
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Yeah I was starting to feel a bit fatigued from swinging off the XR650 at about the 170km mark on Sunday. So I sat on the supplied seat and had a rest and came good again.
Yeah yeah Michael, but how many hours of S/T in that, I believe our riding habits may be slightly different, for example the other group of Border boyz went out last weekend and in 4 hours did 20 ks…..no rest breaks either, just some very serious nasty little trails.
I S’pose we shoulda clarified what style of Riding CEL likes first before all telling him what we think would be best for our styles..
And XRs are porky you can dress it up as a learjet anyway you want, but it’s still a 747…
Mr Blue wrote:
Quote:We have several types of bikes being discussedTB comes from an XR650 mindset, yep quick, reliable, engine longevity is terrific, but also heavy tiring to punt for the average weekend warrior.
Not completely Bruce I have been recently putting a lot of thought into a 300 smoker as some people know, but thought it better to update the dual sporter for Sal and I first then we will see.
Also most punters dont ride “4 hours did 20 ks…..no rest breaks either” do they :laugh:
TB
Trailboss wrote:
Quote:Sorry Trent I maybe should have explained better. There are manufactures maintance requirements that are unrealistic as we all know. Take the two stroke engine piston and ring requirements, everyone knows that they are unrealistic in the real world. BMW services, valves shimming etc. Husky service requirements etc.Maintance includes say adjusting the valves some engines as you know use bucket and shim adjustment which is far more maintance intensive to adjust the say screw and nut. Some engines require the valves to be checked more often then others as you know. Oil change interval etc all add up to mainatnce schedules and time and effort you would agree.
Have you read the maintance schedule for a high performance two stroke Trent? My KTM 250 smoker I rode and raced said to change the rings every 8hrs and piston every 16hrs
Why attack my jersey or me or my bike what was that going to prove? I never said boo about an XR or Baja or the likes or any brand longevity did I? You made it personal
I know plenty of people faster then you and I that are faster on a DR Trent be it singles or twins mate.
Moto your bit doesnt surprise me or add anything you also made it personal for what reason I don’t know.
Knowing Chris as I do I offered what I thought, from expernice and working on bikes and engines for a few years. Same as I answered your slipper clutch question Trent
TB
My post was no more personal than yours TB and I’d consider neither to be personal at all. How you take it is your choice and doing not mine but as per the smilies and jokes there’s some tongue in cheek you should be able to handle considering how you dish it
What do manufacturer’s maintenance schedules matter in this discussion when they are based on being over conservative and unrealistic in the real world as you correctly point out.
I don’t know c-e-l but from what he has posted in this thread I think he has a misinformed view about modern bikes that should be corrected. As per my original post I wasn’t trying to compare the two styles of bikes except that I believe it is a fact that 99% of punters are going to be faster and have more fun trying to go fast on a race type setup bike than a bike that is made to operate well within its safe limits to increase longetivity.
Yes WR/CRF/EXC/etc are more maintenance than an XR or DRZ. Derr. But Hell no it shouldn’t cost you $800 odd for a valve re-shim and no a stock 450 isn’t going to be as hard to maintain as a 250f with a big bore kit so if that’s what c-e-l is basing his view on he’s potentially missing out.
Of course there’s blokes that can ride a DR quicker than us. There’s blokes that can ride 125 2ts quicker than us and even downhill mountain bikes what does that matter? Don’t have this bloke on thinking he’ll be quicker on an XR through single than on say a CRF because it’s flat out bs. P-dub used to tractor along quicker than me on his xr400 but when he jumped on his CRF250x he was quicker again and his smile was twice as wide. Chuck Grabbo or others on an DRZ and they’ll probably still top ten it but there’s a reason they don’t choose to ride one and that’s the point here.
c-e-l, ignore all the bs mate. I’m not saying a DRZ isn’t a great bike because they are for what they do but if you want to ride at the front of the pack you’re going to do it a lot easier on a WR or similar unless you’re already a gun rider in which case you’d know which bike suited you. Don’t let your past experience influence you, I had a lemon and there’s no way I would base 4t bikes on that because it wasn’t because it was a 4t that it had problems and I’d go another one without a worry if I wanted a change.
Yeah its all good Tony, I dish and I take always but didn’t dish you your bike etc as I thought it was a serious discussion :laugh: Chris said early on he is happy with his bike but it doesn’t have a button. In his intro he talked about his WR and how he didn’t like it and went back to his current bike. He wants the same with a button Champ :laugh: Chris rode the softer B route on the weekend as he is not a WR, CRF, TM, two stroke rider.
I really think this is all messed up because of the written word and unread posts here and other threads by peopleNow leave my Jersey out of it or I will cry :S and start on about your eyebrows
And Moto’s your God, there is a statement :whistle:TB
Trailboss wrote:
Quote:Mr Blue wrote:Quote:We have several types of bikes being discussedTB comes from an XR650 mindset, yep quick, reliable, engine longevity is terrific, but also heavy tiring to punt for the average weekend warrior.
Not completely Bruce I have been recently putting a lot of thought into a 300 smoker as some people know, but thought it better to update the dual sporter for Sal and I first then we will see.
Also most punters dont ride “4 hours did 20 ks…..no rest breaks either” do they :laugh:
TB
No actually that splinter group are insane, I reckon they’re losing the plot, the other portion of the loose alliance (myself and 4 others) do some tougher stuff and if we get 65k in 4 hours through tight trails I’m happy enough with that.
And yep it’s not everyones cuppa tea, but it is a lot of fun and tests/develops your skills.I’m a huge fam of the GasGas 300 now, rode a late model 300, and while pretty damn tame, it had a “magic carpet” ride and did everything well and nothing bad. They have excellent rep for most parts (except the batch that had main bearing/case mismatch issues) and the new ones are probably one of the best looking bikes on the market. If I was going back to that style of power delivery I wouldn’t hesitate. The hussy 300 is too much like the TM for my liking at the moment, great bikes but neither an MX bike nor enduro with higher maintenance than the KTM or GG. Just a bit quirky and Euro feeling for this old dog
You know TB you sounded a bit like me with the “in the olde days my KTM250 blah blah” in that other post?, I actually wish the modern KTMs handled the chop like those older ones with the newer engine delivery, would be a top bike then no argument.
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