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  • #177731

    Bruce Curtis
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    An XR 400 can be turned into electric start with the TRX (quad0 starter cases etc, sounds like it could be a thing?

    Try a few out CEL, and see what tickles your fancy, cause as i said, dirtbikes are emotive…….

    and DRZ400s are as boring as batpooh… :P

    #177729

    Trent
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    Trailboss wrote:

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    Yeah its all good Tony, I dish and I take always but didn’t dish you your bike etc as I thought it was a serious discussion :laugh: Chris said early on he is happy with his bike but it doesn’t have a button. In his intro he talked about his WR and how he didn’t like it and went back to his current bike. He wants the same with a button Champ :laugh: Chris rode the softer B route on the weekend as he is not a WR, CRF, TM, two stroke rider.
    I really think this is all messed up because of the written word and unread posts here and other threads by people ;)

    Now leave my Jersey out of it or I will cry :S and start on about your eyebrows :P And Moto’s your God, there is a statement :whistle:

    TB

    Keep your chin up big fella ;) I didn’t have a go at your bike at all, saying that the XR/DRZ are a bit more pedestrian follows the same reasoning as this line:

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    Chris rode the softer B route on the weekend as he is not a WR, CRF, TM, two stroke rider.

    Hence why I maintain I didn’t make this personal nor take it less than serious.

    I was happy with my 250 too but I’m happier on my 300 and surely you can see that a bore kit on a 250 combined with a balaclava wearing mechanic are no reason to rule out a newer WR450 type bike. Bore kits are for racers that are willing to forego maintenance for the sake of that little bit extra punch full stop. There’s no way anyone should be comparing a bore kitted 250f with what sounds like poorly tuned suspension to any standard bike let alone a 450 or 400.

    c-e-l, Greg knows me well enough to know that I’m not passionate about any particular bike but about getting out there and having fun which is why I’m trying to make sure your past experience and misinformation don’t mislead you towards missing out on considering something that may or may not lead to you having more fun.

    From the sounds of it he knows you alot better than I do too but you have to admit if you breath like an asmathic when you read his posts he does have that “come to the dark side luke” way about him :D

    #177732

    Feelings Blue, feelings. Even DRZ riders have them. :P ;)

    #177734

    Greg
    Member

    Nice work Tony, I have been to the dark side and come back :P Remember last week we worked out you are but a boy :P (lucky bastard :laugh: )

    TB

    #177735

    Bruce Curtis
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    Jeffro wrote:

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    Feelings Blue, feelings. Even DRZ riders have them. :P ;)

    OK I did see a DRZ once that didn’t look or sound boring, but it turned out it was an RMZ with a DRZ headlight…..

    Actually seriously they are a pretty good bike as far as design criteria goes, and the Daryl Hurley thumpernats bike was a masterpiece which was sold just recently I am told.

    Ok maybe the bikes aren’t boring, which just leaves the riders ????? :huh:

    #177737

    Trent
    Member

    Trailboss wrote:

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    Nice work Tony, I have been to the dark side and come back :P Remember last week we worked out you are but a boy :P (lucky bastard :laugh: )

    TB

    Better than being a butt boy that likes the “dark side” 😆 :laugh: :woohoo:

    So c-e-l, what do you think? If a WR or the likes was reasonable to maintain would you prefer to ride one or would you prefer the ol’ faithful type that will “get the job done”.

    blue, have you ever explained why you’re not riding a TM?

    #177741

    Greg
    Member

    Austblue wrote:

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    Trailboss wrote:

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    Nice work Tony, I have been to the dark side and come back :P Remember last week we worked out you are but a boy :P (lucky bastard :laugh: )

    TB

    Better than being a butt boy that likes the “dark side” 😆 :laugh: :woohoo:

    So c-e-l, what do you think? If a WR or the likes was reasonable to maintain would you prefer to ride one or would you prefer the ol’ faithful type that will “get the job done”.

    blue, have you ever explained why you’re not riding a TM?

    Tony you are as slow here as you are on that over rated bike over priced bike of yours that you are a passenger on, (but sounds crisp) He had a WR you FOOL and sold it cause he didnt like it FARK!!!!! He said that twice here :ohmy: :ohmy: :laugh: :laugh: :P

    Thank god this thread happened or the day would still be dragging on :laugh:

    TB

    #177651

    Chris
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    Austblue – Greg only knows what I have told him.. ;) I suppose I have been misinformed on the schedule of the newer bikes.. I must admit I have been hanging around XR bigots for about 3 or so years now.. In the end I just want to have fun and not interested in being a pro.. I appreciate your passion and experience I need more of it.. experience that is..

    #177744

    Greg
    Member

    Dan’s WR450 impresses me, it goes good and seems to be reliable will it do 20,000kms I dont know, I know a CRF 450 wont :laugh:

    If I was buying a 450 it would be a WR

    TB

    #177738

    Steve Wyeth
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    I wasn’t going to do it but I feel it’s time :laugh:…….my 08 KTM 450 now has over 8,000Km’s on the clock amassed over almost 2 years of riding. Valves have been checked once, have never been adjusted and are still in spec. Most people that know me will tell you I used to rev it (like riding a gear lower than required for engine braking) and it’s been a great bike.

    Also, there are some XR riders here that do oil and filters every 500Km or so and since that they take twice the oil of most modern 4 strokes that adds up. Sure they probably won’t admit it, but I know it for a fact.

    Also Blue, you weren’t quite correct with the WR-R comment, they have service intervals of something like 4,000Km (or similarly stupid figure) before even recommending an oil change. Dan D used to change it at about 1000km or so just because he felt bad about it! That’s also how long he leaves the oil in WRF450 before changing and he doesn’t have any issues. I also don’t why TM are higher maintenance than the other 2 strokes of similar ilk (please don’t refer to Coley as your source of info as I think we all know he was ‘special’:laugh:

    All that said, if you get a new bike c-e-l it sounds like a DRZ will suit you, although as others have said, I think your view of modern 4 strokes has been somewhat tainted by your previous bad experience with a hotted up 250.

    #177743

    Trent
    Member

    Trailboss wrote:

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    Austblue wrote:

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    Trailboss wrote:

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    Nice work Tony, I have been to the dark side and come back :P Remember last week we worked out you are but a boy :P (lucky bastard :laugh: )

    TB

    Better than being a butt boy that likes the “dark side” 😆 :laugh: :woohoo:

    So c-e-l, what do you think? If a WR or the likes was reasonable to maintain would you prefer to ride one or would you prefer the ol’ faithful type that will “get the job done”.

    blue, have you ever explained why you’re not riding a TM?

    Tony you are as slow here as you are on that over rated bike over priced bike of yours that you are a passenger on, (but sounds crisp) He had a WR you FOOL and sold it cause he didnt like it FARK!!!!! He said that twice here :ohmy: :ohmy: :laugh: :laugh: :P

    Thank god this thread happened or the day would still be dragging on :laugh:

    TB

    Slow? Maybe you should quit trying to verbal him and slow down and read this bit…

    c-e-l wrote:

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    Austblue – I owned a 2004 WR250F with an Athena 290 kit in it… It bucked like a bronco probably for more than one reason but I always thought it was due to its power to weight ratio and the suspension probably could have been tuned better I’m sure… I took that bike into Yamaha to have the valves checked.. They shimmed one and with new tires it cost me $1000.. Very large cucumber up the back side..

    Cheers…
    Chris………..

    Or are you going to try and say that because a poorly tuned big bored 250 wasn’t right for him then a WR/CRF/EXC 400 or 450 etc. won’t be either? :blink:

    Christ this silly big fish just keeps swallowing more line I hope the trace wire is up to it :silly:

    #177742

    Mick D
    Member

    Did anyone mention a DRZ400 yet? :S

    #177746

    Greg
    Member

    moto wrote:

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    I wasn’t going to do it but I feel it’s time :laugh:…….my 08 KTM 450 now has over 8,000Km’s on the clock amassed over almost 2 years of riding. Valves have been checked once, have never been adjusted and are still in spec. Most people that know me will tell you I used to rev it (like riding a gear lower than required for engine braking) and it’s been a great bike.

    Yes yes it did I checked the valves for him and all good. Surprised him as much as me I think :laugh: But facts are facts, would they all do that?

    TB

    #177745

    Trent
    Member

    c-e-l wrote:

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    Austblue – Greg only knows what I have told him.. ;) I suppose I have been misinformed on the schedule of the newer bikes.. I must admit I have been hanging around XR bigots for about 3 or so years now.. In the end I just want to have fun and not interested in being a pro.. I appreciate your passion and experience I need more of it.. experience that is..

    I’ll beat charlie tuna to the hook on this one, I’ve only been riding for about 18months mate and I’m a pup or calf as it were in here :p

    I’m glad you didn’t take my comments as a shot at your knowledge because it’s no slight on you that someone has convinced you that the new bikes are nightmares. In fact some of them are, but more importantly most aren’t and for every bad story you read about there’s 499 blokes too busy enjoying riding their “shitboxes” to post up and whinge about them.

    #177747

    Greg
    Member

    You have missed it again Trent :laugh:

    No Mick no one has :laugh:

    TB

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